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5/18/2009 9:19:27 PM EDT
My Uncle is giving me a Llama Mini-Max Compact .45. I have heard that Llama pistols are hit or miss, but was wondering if any of you guys have personal experience with them. I am planning on just using the frame and building up from there. Until I get the money together to do all that, I am just going to use it as a back up (Bad Idea?)
My other question- Can this take Para double stack mags?
EDIT- Forgot to add-it is a double stack, mags included are 10 rounders
EDITED AGAIN-because I am a moron and forgot some words
5/18/2009 9:50:22 PM EDT
[#1]
I have a MiniMax II and it is so so. It will eat anything I feed it including shitty Amerc ammo. It is so-so on accuracy. If it shoots one way or the other check the barrel link. Mine shot left by something like 6" and changing the barrel link pretty much fixed that problem. They aren't true 1911 style pistols but work can be done to them. For a back-up in close it will be serviceable.
5/19/2009 11:11:36 AM EDT
[#2]
All the fire control parts will interchange with Colt just fine:

trigger
sear & spring
disconnector
thumb safety
grip safety
hammer & strut

For the most part they work as well as any other mid-range 3" 1911

My single-stack has been 100%
5/19/2009 2:02:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
All the fire control parts will interchange with Colt just fine:

trigger
sear & spring
disconnector
thumb safety
grip safety
hammer & strut

For the most part they work as well as any other mid-range 3" 1911

My single-stack has been 100%


This is true.

Llama put out a 1911 clone years ago that had a vent rib cast into the top of the slide that was a total piece of shit almost to the point of being dangerous.

That gun is the one that gave them the reputation that they have today.

Their current 1911 is every bit as good as any other  foreign made cast frame/slide thrown together MIM El cheapo and actually has a lifetime warranty.

They are hit and miss just like the rest and if you get a good one, while I wouldn't put any money into modifying one or stake my life on it, they make great range blaster/toy/ trunk guns.
5/22/2009 7:25:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Tc6969,  when you asy that the 1911 clone with the vents in the top slide was almost to the point of being dangerous, what was the problem?  The reason I ask is that I dug my Llama 45 from my childhood out of deep storage today and it had a real FTE.  I had given it a good cleaning hoping it would clear up the problem it had when I put it away back in the late 80's but no luck.
5/23/2009 3:13:55 PM EDT
[#5]
I dont have any documentation to back this but I remember when those guns were produced back in the late 60's early 70's.

We didnt have the technology that we have today and the only way to cheaply produce a complicated machine like the 1911 and sell it at the price point of  -$100.00 was to cast everything that you could and stamp the rest.

There was also very little adherence to spec and little if any hand fitting which caused them to be loose where they needed to be tight and tight where they needed to be loose.

Parts breakage was a given and stories of disconnectors, thumb safeties and slide stops breaking and falling out were commonplace.

The shop where I hung out back then didn't even allow them in the building after several instances where people walked in with loaded and cocked guns that were frozen solid because of some internal breakage that locked them up.

A good indicator of  what I'm taking about is the amount of them still in circulation.

In the last 10 years, I've seen exactly one and it was being returned at a gun show on a Sunday after being purchased on a Saturday
5/28/2009 7:10:31 PM EDT
[#6]
I owned two of them. A fullsize 45, purchased new. Everytime I pulled the trigger it would double then jam. Returned it to the store. The other was Officers size in 40 S&W. Wouldn't even feed hardball. Took a beating when I traded it off at a gunshow. When my son was taking his conceraled carry class, two guys had them. One was jamamatic the other worked fairly well. Three out four being bad aren't very good odds.