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7/21/2026 7:30:41 PM EDT
Anyone able to help with info on this bad boy?  I seem to only be able to find contradicting info on it.
7/21/2026 7:35:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fence_Post:
Anyone able to help with info on this bad boy?  I seem to only be able to find contradicting info on it.
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7/21/2026 9:06:59 PM EDT
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Schofield.  The military had them for a while.  They issued a special 45 round in brass shorter than the Colt so it could be fired in this or in the Colt.  The 45 Colt ammo brass was too long for the Schofield.  This is how the term '45 Long Colt' got started.

The company making modern reproductions made one for 45 LC but to do so removed design features which then allowed BP fouling to jam the gun after only a few shots.
7/21/2026 11:34:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MarkHatfield:
Schofield.  The military had them for a while.  They issued a special 45 round in brass shorter than the Colt so it could be fired in this or in the Colt.  The 45 Colt ammo brass was too long for the Schofield.  This is how the term '45 Long Colt' got started.

The company making modern reproductions made one for 45 LC but to do so removed design features which then allowed BP fouling to jam the gun after only a few shots.
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Pictured gun is not a schofield  likely a 38 S&W ( not special) or 32 S&W five shot.

Clear enlarged pictures with clear markings and numbers ( don’t pull that black out the serial number BS when trying to ID an old gun!)
7/22/2026 11:31:03 PM EDT
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It is either a S&W .38 Double Action 3rd Model or 4th Model. It has been refinished, factory nickel guns had blued trigger guards, triggers, hammers, and top-latches. The stock are not factory, but they are nice. Those stocks belong to a much later S&W I-Frame Terrier. The forerunner to the modern snub-nose .38 Special J-Frame. The .38 Double Action and the I-Frame shared the same grip/stock size.
7/24/2026 5:46:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wmagrush][Edited] [#5]
https://www.guns.com/used-guns/p/smith-wesson-top-break?i=539006

A 5 shot .38 S&W (shorter cartridge than S&W Special ). Also this:

https://wp.taylordefense.com/smith-wesson-1st-model-new-departure-reliable-38-revolver-for-defense/
7/24/2026 9:11:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wmagrush:
https://www.guns.com/used-guns/p/smith-wesson-top-break?i=539006

A 5 shot .38 S&W (shorter cartridge than S&W Special ). Also this:

https://wp.taylordefense.com/smith-wesson-1st-model-new-departure-reliable-38-revolver-for-defense/
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That AI slop article is wrong. That's not a New Departure.
7/26/2026 9:49:56 AM EDT
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So it’s getting to the point that nothing can be trusted on the internet. Apologize for posting bad info.
7/26/2026 6:32:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wmagrush:
So it's getting to the point that nothing can be trusted on the internet. Apologize for posting bad info.
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I own a New Departure 2nd Model, a .38 Double Action 2nd Model, and a .32 Double Action 4th Model.

If you really don't know what you're looking at, it is hard to figure it all out.

Here's my recently acquired New Departure with my two Double Actions.

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