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8/16/2009 7:43:09 PM EDT
Im sorry if this is a dupe. I was having a discussion with a friend. He says he has had the same 1911 mag in his pistol for 2 years. Yes with the same ammo too.
Ive always felt I should rotate my mags out.   SO my question is, do you guys rotate mags and if so how often?
8/16/2009 7:53:47 PM EDT
[#1]
6 months max. They usually don't stay loaded that long though.
8/16/2009 8:16:51 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Im sorry if this is a dupe. I was having a discussion with a friend. He says he has had the same 1911 mag in his pistol for 2 years. Yes with the same ammo too.
Ive always felt I should rotate my mags out.   SO my question is, do you guys rotate mags and if so how often?


He has the same carry ammo he had 2 years ago?

I shoot at least the first few rounds (the ones that get cycled repeatedly) every time I go to the range.

Jay
8/17/2009 6:58:53 AM EDT
[#3]
I don't see what the point is in 'rotating' magazines.  The springs aren't like a pitcher's arm.  They don't benefit from resting.  Maybe a real engineer will come along and explain all this, but my understanding is that spring fatigue is a product of cycles, not time at a given level of compression.
8/17/2009 7:43:39 AM EDT
[#4]
Modern mag springs, even chrome silicon will take a certain amount of set.

I see guys with a 1000 rounds loaded ready to go in mags post pics, all the time.  It's impressive but I think any mag you are going to bet your life on should be used/tested often enough to ensure it is reliable.

I question the logic in keeping a case of ammo ready to go. You won't see the military storing ammo long term loaded in a mag.
They keep it in ammo cans to be loaded as needed. I'm not saying weeks or months is long term, but years is a long time to keep a mag spring under compression, it does have an effect.

I have an early Para Ordinance P12, maybe 15 years old, I recently had some fail to feed problems, always with second to last round in the 12 round mag.

I installed new Wolff  mag springs and ftf problem went away. I always keep 2 mags loaded. I don't shoot this pistol much. So I can safely say the springs didn't "wear out".
They took a compression set.

Newer chrome silicon will probably last much longer before they take a compression set.



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8/17/2009 8:37:50 AM EDT
[#5]
Ive been told ones a month, Every 3 months, Every 6 months and ones a year, Ive also had people tell me I was wasting time. I have notices some mags loosing pressure after long term storage.
I just dont know how often it should be done. everyone seems to have a different opinion
8/17/2009 4:27:54 PM EDT
[#6]
I have seen 1911 mags which have been loaded since  the 1940's  function.
8/17/2009 5:06:33 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I don't see what the point is in 'rotating' magazines.  The springs aren't like a pitcher's arm.  They don't benefit from resting.  Maybe a real engineer will come along and explain all this, but my understanding is that spring fatigue is a product of cycles, not time at a given level of compression.


This was my understanding as well.

8/17/2009 5:44:20 PM EDT
[#8]
I have mags that I keep loaded at all times, except when I'm shooting.  Once I'm done shooting, I reload all of the mags and keep them loaded until the next time I shoot.  Most of these mags were the mags that came with the gun when I bought them.  They are still reliable.  I only keep a few of my mags loaded though.  My stockpile of mags are merely spare mags for when the originals wear out.  I bought them all to lock in the low price, as in 10 years, who knows how much they will be...
8/17/2009 8:35:30 PM EDT
[#9]
There is no need to "rotate" mags.  They're fine if left loaded.  All mine are loaded, all the time.  Never a problem.  They do get unloaded at the range................one BANG at a time.

Even that carry ammo, if it's quality ammo, well-made, and has been kept away from moisture, solvents, etc.................would be just fine for 2 years, or even 10.

That said, most of us want to shoot up that carry ammo within a year or so, and replace it with new stuff.........................just to be absolutely positively sure it's going to go bang when we pull the trigger.
8/18/2009 5:44:51 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't see what the point is in 'rotating' magazines.  The springs aren't like a pitcher's arm.  They don't benefit from resting.  Maybe a real engineer will come along and explain all this, but my understanding is that spring fatigue is a product of cycles, not time at a given level of compression.


This was my understanding as well.



Same here, I shoot mine when I shoot them, usually the carry ammo is in the first mag and then FMJ fired in the rest. Reloaded with carry ammo after and sit til next range trip. I only have 4 or 5 mags per gun vs some people on this site though.
8/18/2009 6:13:07 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
There is no need to "rotate" mags.  They're fine if left loaded.  All mine are loaded, all the time.  Never a problem.  They do get unloaded at the range................one BANG at a time.

Even that carry ammo, if it's quality ammo, well-made, and has been kept away from moisture, solvents, etc.................would be just fine for 2 years, or even 10.

That said, most of us want to shoot up that carry ammo within a year or so, and replace it with new stuff.........................just to be absolutely positively sure it's going to go bang when we pull the trigger.


+1
8/18/2009 12:35:54 PM EDT
[#12]
Some things wear out from just sitting there in your holster: bullet set back (from chambering), rust (maybe), your night sights (time)

But most things wear out from use, including magazines.