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3/30/2011 5:17:08 PM EDT
I was just wondering where everyone is getting those M&P mag extensions and how reliable they are.  FS mags already look a bit oversized in my 40c, but I suppose a few more rounds couldn't hurt...
3/30/2011 5:19:40 PM EDT
[#1]
have Arredondos for my 9c. They could be better ergonomically. Seem to work just fine...
3/30/2011 7:28:56 PM EDT
[#2]
I ordered an X-grip from Midwayusa.com

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=946044
3/30/2011 7:40:22 PM EDT
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I ordered an X-grip from Midwayusa.com

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=946044


I actually prefer to leave the full size mags stock.  That way I don't have to worry about jamming it into my pinky when I reload.  I was talking about something that gives more capacity to a full size mage like this:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=16&t=56266&page=19
3/30/2011 11:59:43 PM EDT
[#4]
I use Taylor Freelance extensions and really like them.
3/31/2011 8:23:07 AM EDT
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I ordered an X-grip from Midwayusa.com

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=946044


I actually prefer to leave the full size mags stock.  That way I don't have to worry about jamming it into my pinky when I reload.  I was talking about something that gives more capacity to a full size mage like this:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=16&t=56266&page=19


Those are the Arredondos.  I have them for my full size and love them, though I've never used them in a compact, so I can't attest to that.
3/31/2011 8:26:01 AM EDT
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I use Taylor Freelance extensions and really like them.


Which do you have?  I thought about ordering one of the 170mm kits, just for shits and giggles...
3/31/2011 11:33:49 AM EDT
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I use Taylor Freelance extensions and really like them.


Which do you have?  I thought about ordering one of the 170mm kits, just for shits and giggles...


I have the 140's, thought about getting a 170 though. They're well put together and will take 5 rounds of .40 with the extra power spring which is great.
4/1/2011 7:28:23 AM EDT
[#8]
Arrendondos are the best. i used them on my full size 9 now but have had them on a compact 12 rd. when i got my compact it had one mag with pinky rest and one flat bottom. the arrendondo replaced the flat bottom and it was pretty comfortable.



4/1/2011 8:04:29 AM EDT
[#9]
The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P
4/1/2011 2:45:23 PM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.
4/2/2011 5:10:17 AM EDT
[#11]
It would nice to see something like what 10-8 has done for the 45 mags for the 9/40 mags to be used in the compacts.

http://www.10-8performance.com/store/images/Pad-45L_L.jpg
4/2/2011 7:41:59 AM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


Is this using their "L" insert?

4/2/2011 10:41:48 AM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


Is this using their "L" insert?



Yep.

I had them, sold them as fast as I ordered them.  You can press the baseplate forward and jam the follower or the spring up.

They are complete peices of shit (of course in my opinion), and it amazes me to see how many of them are in circulation.  They turn an otherwise solid platform into something with a very important weak link.  

Arredondo refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem with them too, despite the fact that there IS.

4/2/2011 1:10:10 PM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


Is this using their "L" insert?



Yep.

I had them, sold them as fast as I ordered them.  You can press the baseplate forward and jam the follower or the spring up.

They are complete peices of shit (of course in my opinion), and it amazes me to see how many of them are in circulation.  They turn an otherwise solid platform into something with a very important weak link.  

Arredondo refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem with them too, despite the fact that there IS.



So you're saying I should send the Arrendo's I just bought back, and get the Taylor Freelances.

Poop.
4/3/2011 7:29:06 AM EDT
[#15]
Also: Make absolutely sure to get your Arredondos with the extra power spring... I went to test my 9c mag with extension on it (man it looks so sweet!) at the range and found out they didn't really work without a stronger spring in them. Didn't feed.
4/4/2011 9:53:48 PM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


Is this using their "L" insert?



Yep.

I had them, sold them as fast as I ordered them.  You can press the baseplate forward and jam the follower or the spring up.

They are complete peices of shit (of course in my opinion), and it amazes me to see how many of them are in circulation.  They turn an otherwise solid platform into something with a very important weak link.  

Arredondo refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem with them too, despite the fact that there IS.



So you're saying I should send the Arrendo's I just bought back, and get the Taylor Freelances.

Poop.


While I understand that you get what you pay for... HOLY !@#%^& are those Taylor Freelance extensions expensive .  I don't think $50 for 8 more rounds is really worth it when that money could buy me 2 more full sized mags.
4/5/2011 3:50:11 AM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


Is this using their "L" insert?



Yep.

I had them, sold them as fast as I ordered them.  You can press the baseplate forward and jam the follower or the spring up.

They are complete peices of shit (of course in my opinion), and it amazes me to see how many of them are in circulation.  They turn an otherwise solid platform into something with a very important weak link.  

Arredondo refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem with them too, despite the fact that there IS.



So you're saying I should send the Arrendo's I just bought back, and get the Taylor Freelances.

Poop.


While I understand that you get what you pay for... HOLY !@#%^& are those Taylor Freelance extensions expensive .  I don't think $50 for 8 more rounds is really worth it when that money could buy me 2 more full sized mags.


The flip side of that coin is now I know why the Arredondo's are so cheap - they're pieces of crap. The spring doesn't allow the follower to physically attach. The actual basepad looks to me like 2 pieces of plastic glued together instead of one molded piece. And the one I took out of the package I had to modify to get it to work. And now I know why the marksman14 warned about smacking the basepads as well, there's nothing to stop the pad from sliding right off if it get hits hard enough. Like when you let your mag drop to the ground during a reload. If it hits the ground just right - KABLAM!!! Bullets, spring, baseplate everywhere. Of course you'll never find the follower, because it got launched into orbit.

These are definitely going back.
4/5/2011 4:38:55 AM EDT
[#18]
I just ordered a pair of 10-8 base pads to replace the stock plastic and one TF 140mm extension. I have 3 of the Arrendondo and are great for casual range use put I just want the piece of mind knowing my pistol will send rounds down range and not the mag when the bottom pops off.

A bit off topic, but does anyone know if the ISMI Extra Power springs hook to the follower like the stock spring?
4/6/2011 6:57:25 AM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


+1 to this.  I bought two before I read this  Installed one last night and loaded up a mag it got to 19 rounds and wouldnt budge after that.  I think the follower is binding on the plastic piece in the extension.  I tried to jam one round to see if it would go past and the thing came apart and spit every round out on the floor  Not happy and the base plate just reeks of cheapness like it was cut out with a pair of shears. I think I want to send them back, how is their return policy?
4/10/2011 2:42:55 PM EDT
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The Arredondos are very reliable with the extra-power spring, but be a little more cautious when using them.  If the baseplate gets bumped forward hard enough it's possible for it to shit all your rounds out during a match.  Ask me how I know :P


This right  here explains why I don't use arredondo's.

Compared to their glock plates, these are a joke.  They're ok if you're a gamer, for a serious working gun....stick with taylor freelance.


+1 to this.  I bought two before I read this  Installed one last night and loaded up a mag it got to 19 rounds and wouldnt budge after that.  I think the follower is binding on the plastic piece in the extension.  I tried to jam one round to see if it would go past and the thing came apart and spit every round out on the floor  Not happy and the base plate just reeks of cheapness like it was cut out with a pair of shears. I think I want to send them back, how is their return policy?


I had this same problem with mine last year. I was hoping that they had fixed the problem, because I've been itching to get back into the M&P game, but I guess not...

4/10/2011 2:49:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Taylor Freelance makes +5/6's that are 30 dollars.  5 bucks for the spring.

They install ROCK solid, though it is a bit fun figuring out how to hold the spring up while you slide it on there

For extensions, they are the only way to go.

Arredondo should be embarassed by those peices of shit.
4/10/2011 3:24:58 PM EDT
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The lack of quality is kind of surprising as I have the extended baseplates for my glocks and those things are lights out! But the M&P models just aren't up to the task.
4/11/2011 3:13:58 AM EDT
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Taylor Freelance makes +5/6's that are 30 dollars.  5 bucks for the spring.

They install ROCK solid, though it is a bit fun figuring out how to hold the spring up while you slide it on there

For extensions, they are the only way to go.

Arredondo should be embarassed by those peices of shit.


Or better yet, how to push the spring to get the base pad off for cleaning.

4/11/2011 3:44:35 AM EDT
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Taylor Freelance makes +5/6's that are 30 dollars.  5 bucks for the spring.



They install ROCK solid, though it is a bit fun figuring out how to hold the spring up while you slide it on there



For extensions, they are the only way to go.



Arredondo should be embarassed by those peices of shit.


I bought two for my XD Service, and after a couple range trips I managed to get an entire mags worth of ammo dumped on the ground multiple times. The last time, I couldn't even get the damn thing loaded without the floor plate slipping and either binding or coming off. I ended up just tossing them in the trash I was so pissed.

 



What are the base plates I have seen on here, for the M&P, that seem to have a steel plate against the spine of the mag/plate that kept it from walking out?
4/11/2011 6:24:12 AM EDT
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What are the base plates I have seen on here, for the M&P, that seem to have a steel plate against the spine of the mag/plate that kept it from walking out?


Taylor Freelance 140mm Extensions. The TF 140 extensions will hold +5 (22) with extended power springs and +6 (23) with M&P mag springs. The M&P Gen4 mag spring will allow the slide to lock after the last round. Previous Gen2 and Gen3 springs will not do this. For Admin reloads do not store the extra round but for a tactical reload with the slide locked back the extra round is perfect. The 23rd round is hard to get in and rounds do not compress well if the slide is in battery.

The Base is machined aluminum with a black anodizing finish and the retaining plate is plain finish aluminum (should be anodized as well) with 2 screws. These are by far a rock solid/ superior design to the Arrendondo bases.






4/11/2011 10:17:38 AM EDT
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What are the base plates I have seen on here, for the M&P, that seem to have a steel plate against the spine of the mag/plate that kept it from walking out?


Taylor Freelance 140mm Extensions. The TF 140 extensions will hold +5 (22) with extended power springs and +6 (23) with M&P mag springs. The M&P Gen4 mag spring will allow the slide to lock after the last round. Previous Gen2 and Gen3 springs will not do this. For Admin reloads do not store the extra round but for a tactical reload with the slide locked back the extra round is perfect. The 23rd round is hard to get in and rounds do not compress well if the slide is in battery.

The Base is machined aluminum with a black anodizing finish and the retaining plate is plain finish aluminum (should be anodized as well) with 2 screws. These are by far a rock solid/ superior design to the Arrendondo bases.


http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/6656/dscf3759.jpg
http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6527/dscf3762.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9470/dscf3764qw.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6658/dscf3770l.jpg



Well great.. dose that means the mag i bought from you with the Arrendondo plate is crap?


4/12/2011 8:34:35 AM EDT
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What are the base plates I have seen on here, for the M&P, that seem to have a steel plate against the spine of the mag/plate that kept it from walking out?






Taylor Freelance 140mm Extensions. The TF 140 extensions will hold +5 (22) with extended power springs and +6 (23) with M&P mag springs. The M&P Gen4 mag spring will allow the slide to lock after the last round. Previous Gen2 and Gen3 springs will not do this. For Admin reloads do not store the extra round but for a tactical reload with the slide locked back the extra round is perfect. The 23rd round is hard to get in and rounds do not compress well if the slide is in battery.





The Base is machined aluminum with a black anodizing finish and the retaining plate is plain finish aluminum (should be anodized as well) with 2 screws. These are by far a rock solid/ superior design to the Arrendondo bases.
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/6656/dscf3759.jpg


http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6527/dscf3762.jpg


http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9470/dscf3764qw.jpg


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6658/dscf3770l.jpg





I am picking up a M&P9 this friday to accompany my 9c. I already have a few mags, but will add those to my shopping list. They appear far superior to the Arrendondos.
 
4/12/2011 9:16:56 AM EDT
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What are the base plates I have seen on here, for the M&P, that seem to have a steel plate against the spine of the mag/plate that kept it from walking out?


Taylor Freelance 140mm Extensions. The TF 140 extensions will hold +5 (22) with extended power springs and +6 (23) with M&P mag springs. The M&P Gen4 mag spring will allow the slide to lock after the last round. Previous Gen2 and Gen3 springs will not do this. For Admin reloads do not store the extra round but for a tactical reload with the slide locked back the extra round is perfect. The 23rd round is hard to get in and rounds do not compress well if the slide is in battery.

The Base is machined aluminum with a black anodizing finish and the retaining plate is plain finish aluminum (should be anodized as well) with 2 screws. These are by far a rock solid/ superior design to the Arrendondo bases.


http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/6656/dscf3759.jpg
http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6527/dscf3762.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9470/dscf3764qw.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6658/dscf3770l.jpg



Well great.. dose that means the mag i bought from you with the Arrendondo plate is crap?




LOL...........no they are not crap. The TF's are a much better design and will take alot more abuse.