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1/3/2013 7:21:39 PM EDT
I like the feel and look of the mp9/mp40 and am strongly considerin purchasing one.  My only concern is the trigger.  It seems weak and weird to me that it has a pivot in it,  I'm not closed minded to it, but I'm concerned its a poor design.  I have been endlessly searching for a cz75b stainless, with no luck, and am seriously considering a m&p...imput??
1/3/2013 7:26:00 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.
1/3/2013 7:29:34 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.


no, not for carry, want a full size or a pro series for target and home defence
1/3/2013 7:37:58 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.


no, not for carry, want a full size or a pro series for target and home defence


I don't have any problem with the M&P trigger itself, but you might like the forward set trigger for your purposes.
Just be aware that it's not quite legal for IDPA SSP, as it's a visible external mod.

1/4/2013 5:31:34 AM EDT
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i could never figure out all the blather about M&P triggers.  I don't find them all that different than  Glocks.  Neither will ever be mistaken for a tuned 1911.
1/4/2013 5:41:18 AM EDT
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i could never figure out all the blather about M&P triggers.  I don't find them all that different than  Glocks.  Neither will ever be mistaken for a tuned 1911.


I've played with a few M&P's, and each trigger felt different.  Different levels of "mushy" and "gritty" etc. and none had a clean, consistent break.
Glock triggers don't feel nearly as mushy to me, especially with a 3.5lb disconnector.  After the Apex kit, I like the M&P trigger more.
1/4/2013 5:45:56 AM EDT
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i could never figure out all the blather about M&P triggers.  I don't find them all that different than  Glocks.  Neither will ever be mistaken for a tuned 1911.


The only trigger i had replaced was on my 9c. My pro and my shield are both stock and I don't have any problems with them at all.
1/4/2013 12:33:31 PM EDT
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They look weird, but in use, you never notice it.
1/4/2013 1:19:23 PM EDT
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Mine were gritty, mushy with no real reset. My new Shield is the worst of my 3. I installed the DCAEK kit from Apex except the USB. Had ATEi polish and radius the USB and do work on the reset and the 2 triggers are pretty darn nice now. Going to get my new Shield done once I get some night sights. Couldnt recommend ATEi more or atleast a Apex tactical kit.
1/6/2013 7:34:52 AM EDT
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I have observed that those who complain about "trigger feel" on a fighting gun often use it as a crutch.
1/6/2013 9:58:45 AM EDT
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I have observed that those who complain about "trigger feel" on a fighting gun often use it as a crutch.


Well I just ran a IDPA match with the new M&P45, and I will say, if I hadn't swapped in the APEX parts, the small steels would have been tougher, having shot with the stock trigger a few times.  I did pretty darn well for a new to me gun with new to me sights (XS standard tritium dot) and I think I've found a good combo for me.

Hardest part was the one stage with half-hidden swingers at ~15yd.  Hard to get perfect timing on a moving target with a mushy trigger with inconsistent break.
1/6/2013 2:01:23 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.


no, not for carry, want a full size or a pro series for target and home defence


What is a range only trigger?
1/6/2013 2:10:47 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.


no, not for carry, want a full size or a pro series for target and home defence


What is a range only trigger?


A wide trigger with a light pull weight and little to no take-up.  None of my carry guns have a manual safety, so I don't really want a mouse-click trigger.  I've got 1911's with such triggers, but they have manual safeties.

Personal preference, I guess...
1/6/2013 2:47:05 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.


no, not for carry, want a full size or a pro series for target and home defence


What is a range only trigger?


A wide trigger with a light pull weight and little to no take-up.  None of my carry guns have a manual safety, so I don't really want a mouse-click trigger.  I've got 1911's with such triggers, but they have manual safeties.
Personal preference, I guess...


Thanks for your help, I ended up getting a MP40 pro series with 5" barrel.  As I said the gun wont be for carry, its big, but the forward set trigger sounds like something I would like.  I will probably shoot the gun for awhile and see what I think of it before I go making changes.   Approx cost of said trigger?   Gunsmith or DIY job?  Do you like it on a non carry gun?



1/6/2013 2:55:59 PM EDT
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Will you be carrying it?  Apex makes a forward-set trigger that basically replaces the stock trigger with an aluminum Glock-style trigger and shortens the travel.

I thought about one for my new MP45, but I went with their standard DCAEK kit to smooth it out instead, since I plan to carry it and didn't want a range-only trigger.


no, not for carry, want a full size or a pro series for target and home defence


What is a range only trigger?


A wide trigger with a light pull weight and little to no take-up.  None of my carry guns have a manual safety, so I don't really want a mouse-click trigger.  I've got 1911's with such triggers, but they have manual safeties.
Personal preference, I guess...


Thanks for your help, I ended up getting a MP40 pro series with 5" barrel.  As I said the gun wont be for carry, its big, but the forward set trigger sounds like something I would like.  I will probably shoot the gun for awhile and see what I think of it before I go making changes.   Approx cost of said trigger?   Gunsmith or DIY job?  Do you like it on a non carry gun?





I don't have the trigger on my M&P, just the DCAEK, which is sear, springs and RAM.  Prices are on APEX's site.  If you can use a punch and don't have the touch of an elephant, you can do it yourself, just don't drop any small parts.  The PRO has a better trigger than the base M&Ps anyway, just shoot it and see what you think.

1/6/2013 2:57:33 PM EDT
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Just remember the actual replacement trigger isn't technically IDPA legal, as it's an external mod.  May get by with it in most cases though...