Posted: 5/13/2013 5:38:17 PM EDT
| I was thinking off having my 3" GP100 modified to accept moon clips but I think I read somewhere once you do that you have to use moon clips every times afterwards. Is that true or can you still use speed loaders and load by hand? |
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I was thinking off having my 3" GP100 modified to accept moon clips but I think I read somewhere once you do that you have to use moon clips every times afterwards. Is that true or can you still use speed loaders and load by hand? Moon clips are only required if you have a revolver chambered in a rimless cartridge such as .45ACP, 9mm, .40 S&W etc. With standard rimmed revolver cartridges, if your cylinder is machined for moon clips, you can use them or not as you desire. |
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With standard rimmed revolver cartridges, if your cylinder is machined for moon clips, you can use them or not as you desire. Most gunsmiths offering the conversions now leave a lip around the outer edge of the cylinder so the rimmed cases can still headspace without the clips. The old lazy way was to simply machine the whole cylinder leaving you no option but to use moon clips. |
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I thought about it for my 64-8, but speedloaders work fine for me. I do however have a stash of .45 ACP for a gun I no longer own, and a 625 is really calling my name. You should heed the call http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/mossie500/kerpow/IMAG1653.jpg 
It outshoots any of my 1911s. I've killed alot of Midwestern deer with that weapon. Loaded up with 45SUPER handloads (230gr gold-dot HP @ 1150fps) makes a damn fine deer hunting pistol I sold mine to fund some other project, and now I can't find one. I want another 5" |
| My S&W 629 V-Comp has a lock, it hasn't affected how awesome the gun performs at all. I have no use for it so I don't use it or think about it. There's no way I'd let a tiny little hole get in the way of owning an otherwise fantastic gun. After shooting my V-Comp for the first time I wouldn't have cared if it had a tiny padlock hanging off it. |
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How well do the moon clips work with long cartridge cases like the .357? I've often wondered if they are "wobbly". I picked up a 627PC so i could save wear n tear on my 325PD in pistol matches. Found out that they're tighter if you can match brass to your moons, or there's and outfit that wires moons to match brands of brass, but they're Expensive 
Tried messing around with 38 Short Colt ( like a rimmed 9mm more or less) Got tired of it, traded it for a 625PC |
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I was contemplating getting my revolver cut for moon clips, but jsut went with Safariland Comp ML2's instead. Lots faster than HKS speed loaders, holds rounds pretty secure so they don't wobble enough to effect speed loading. The Comp ML3's are even faster. Of course, you could always get cut for moon clips and use both. |
| My 640 Pro is cut for moons from the factory. I dont use the moons, they are too flimsy for pocket carry, certain brands of ammo wont work with them, and the fit is too loose to be useful with all brands of ammo. .45 ACP moons are great, .38/.357, not so much. My experiences, anyway. |
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I understand using moon clips in say a Model 25, I have one, (well did, Daughter took it as her own LOL). You are using the clips to hold a round that has no rim on the case (autos) and chambers on the mouth of the case. In a revolver round, you have a rim and that is where the round chmabers and is held in place. You also have 45 auto rim, which is a 45 acp case that has a rim and allows it to be shot in say a model 25 type revolver.
That being said, OP I think is asking about a having a rim type revolver cylinder machined to use moon clips? Great thread and awesome pics. Gratuitous revolver picture. 3" Model 65. One of my CCW guns. Not a moon clip revolver though.....yet. 
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Well poo, I never even thought about the differences in case design that makes it hard for moon clips to keep them straight. I guess it's not such a great idea...here's the gun I was considering having done. It's a Ruger GP100 Wiley Clapp edition...
If that worked I was going to have this one done. It's my S&W 629 V-Comp .44 magnum 
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The problem is smaller holes to hit, with the same amount of play, with longer cartridges, adds up.
It may not be as big a deal to line up 6 in the GP 100 vs the 8 I had in the 627. And it wasn't super slow, it just wasn't as smooth as my 45s, took a little more jiggling to get them there. I'd say do it, if nothing else it's another option. Thinking myself of cutting my 442 for moons. |
Thanks....after shooting my 629 V-Comp for the first time I was amazed how it felt. The action is just fantastic and I immediately started thinking about that .357 version. No doubt it shoots as well as the 629 which means it has to be awesome, I may have to get one sometime in the future  .
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If I got my GP-100 .357 milled for moon clips could it then also shoot 9mm with the moon clips?
ETA: After searching around the internet it apears the cylinder would have to be reamed for 9mm as it is a tapered round and the case head is larger than the .357 and then would not fire 357/38's without them sticking and makeing the brass one time use. |