[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Mosquito Reliability? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/19/2009 6:28:00 AM EDT
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My paperwork for my Checkmate suppressor should go through sometime next month. I was debating if I should spend $150 getting my Glock .22 kit barrel threaded, and then I found a couple decent deals on a Mosquito in the $300 rang that come with threaded barrels. I was most interested in the Sig model .22 over the other companies because I would like to get a P229 sometime in the future. So not only could I get familiar with the Sig pistol, I would also have a good trainer in the future. Can I expect the Mosquito to be more reliable than the off and on performance of my Glock .22 conversion kit? Or is this just a common problem with shooting .22?
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My paperwork for my Checkmate suppressor should go through sometime next month. I was debating if I should spend $150 getting my Glock .22 kit barrel threaded, and then I found a couple decent deals on a Mosquito in the $300 rang that come with threaded barrels. I was most interested in the Sig model .22 over the other companies because I would like to get a P229 sometime in the future. So not only could I get familiar with the Sig pistol, I would also have a good trainer in the future. Can I expect the Mosquito to be more reliable than the off and on performance of my Glock .22 conversion kit? Or is this just a common problem with shooting .22? Andrew I have no experience with the conversion kits, but my Mosquito has run like a champ. |
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Just for clarification, I am looking for a plinking gun, not a defense gun. I am curious if the Mosquito will be as finicky as my Glock conversion (sometimes 100%, other times 2-3 FTFs or FTEs a mag) or if it will run smoothly.
fyeguy: Did your Mosquito require a significant break in period? Do you shoot it suppressed? Is it picky with ammo? pancakes: Do you mind elaborating a little for me on your experiences with the Sig? Andrew |
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Just for clarification, I am looking for a plinking gun, not a defense gun. I am curious if the Mosquito will be as finicky as my Glock conversion (sometimes 100%, other times 2-3 FTFs or FTEs a mag) or if it will run smoothly. fyeguy: Did your Mosquito require a significant break in period? Do you shoot it suppressed? Is it picky with ammo? No real break in period, and no I did not shoot it suppressed. I shot bulk packs, cci stingers, wolf, and a variety of other ammo. I had a few FTF's here and there, nothing major. |
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Quoted: Thank you for the updates guys! I might have to jump on one of the threaded Mosquitos. I would probably shoot primarily suppressed, but I am interested in something that just works, regardless of how I am shooting. Andrew If you are interested in "something that just works" then don't get a mosquito. There have been many discussions on mosquito malfunctions. There are other .22 semi-auto pistols out there (i.e. Ruger and Browning). |
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Thank you for the updates guys! I might have to jump on one of the threaded Mosquitos. I would probably shoot primarily suppressed, but I am interested in something that just works, regardless of how I am shooting. Andrew If you are interested in "something that just works" then don't get a mosquito. There have been many discussions on mosquito malfunctions. There are other .22 semi-auto pistols out there (i.e. Ruger and Browning). My vote would be for a ruger, look for a mark II. the only problem with the ruger is you would have to get a threaded barell. |
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Thank you for the updates guys! I might have to jump on one of the threaded Mosquitos. I would probably shoot primarily suppressed, but I am interested in something that just works, regardless of how I am shooting. Andrew If you are interested in "something that just works" then don't get a mosquito. There have been many discussions on mosquito malfunctions. There are other .22 semi-auto pistols out there (i.e. Ruger and Browning). Do you own a Mosquito Pancake? Or are you just a repeating parrot? I own one and have had no problems with it. Now if you have first hand info. ie you had one that was crap then please do tell us your story. Dont just repeat what you have "heard" on other posts. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thank you for the updates guys! I might have to jump on one of the threaded Mosquitos. I would probably shoot primarily suppressed, but I am interested in something that just works, regardless of how I am shooting. Andrew If you are interested in "something that just works" then don't get a mosquito. There have been many discussions on mosquito malfunctions. There are other .22 semi-auto pistols out there (i.e. Ruger and Browning). Do you own a Mosquito Pancake? Or are you just a repeating parrot? I own one and have had no problems with it. Now if you have first hand info. ie you had one that was crap then please do tell us your story. Dont just repeat what you have "heard" on other posts. Why no I don't own one there Grundy. But I don't need to have personal experience with something to know it's a bad idea. I have read quite a bit on Sig Forum (and here on arfcom) about the reliability issues of mosquitos. The OP wants a reliable .22. I have never heard anyone call the mosquito reliable––with the exception of you. Now not every mosquito is a dud. But if the amount of used mosquitos I see for sale is any indication, a lot of them are. Recommending a mosquito to someone wanting a reliable .22 semi-auto is like recommending a Tarus .40 to someone who wants a reliable .40. It might be relaible, but chances are greater that there will be problems. |
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Yes. I also heard that smoking was harmful to my health. So I have never smoked. The same principle applies. It never ceases to amaze me how people on this board revel in shitting on threads when they have zero practical experience with the subject. 
Do you have ANY experience shooting ANY .22 pistols? |
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Quoted: For what its worth –– Browning Buckmark and Ruger .22 revolver. Quoted: Yes. I also heard that smoking was harmful to my health. So I have never smoked. The same principle applies. It never ceases to amaze me how people on this board revel in shitting on threads when they have zero practical experience with the subject. Do you have ANY experience shooting ANY .22 pistols? Kind of amazes me just how personally you are taking this... |
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Sorry to fire up such a debate. I understand that the Mosquito has its issues. Since I know that I would eventually like to buy a P229 I was looking at the Mosquito, since it would make a good trainer. I am not looking for 100% reliability, I was just curious how the Mosquito performed compared to a .22 conversion. My Ciener Glock 19 conversion shoots 100% with CCI MiniMags, but anything else gives it issues. My goal is to be able to shoot subsonics and bulk pack ammo, with the same reliability my Ciener kit shoots the Minimags. The low price of the Mosquito, in addition to it coming with a factory threaded barrel were what interested me the most.
I appreciate getting the pros from fyeguy and others. Pancakes, I understand you have issues with the Mosquito, but can you be more specific? I heard the same kind of comments when I would ask people about getting my Glock Ciener kit threaded ("I'm suprised yours even works...etc") but it was usually from guys who didn't own one, they just knew someone with one that sucks. I understand some have problems, but I am looking for some specifics. I really do appreciate getting the pros and cons. Andrew |
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Just to be more specific: By "reliable" am trying to get an idea of consistency with different types of ammo. Like I said my Glock conversion shoots MiniMags no problem, I could shoot 500 rounds in a sitting without a single FTF or stovepipe , but the second I load up a mag with Fed Bulk pack, it FTFs and stovepipes about 5 or 6 times a mag. I want to know if the Mosquito is also picky, or if it eats whatever you feed it. I know so far from fyeguy that his does it all. If anyone can tell me what theirs doesn't like, or what they are shooting when problems happen it might help.
Fyeguy / grndy27: How many rounds do you tend to shoot per session? Does the gun need a cleaning after "x" amount of rounds to ensure functioning? Andrew |
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Quoted: Sorry to fire up such a debate. I understand that the Mosquito has its issues. Since I know that I would eventually like to buy a P229 I was looking at the Mosquito, since it would make a good trainer. I am not looking for 100% reliability, I was just curious how the Mosquito performed compared to a .22 conversion. My Ciener Glock 19 conversion shoots 100% with CCI MiniMags, but anything else gives it issues. My goal is to be able to shoot subsonics and bulk pack ammo, with the same reliability my Ciener kit shoots the Minimags. The low price of the Mosquito, in addition to it coming with a factory threaded barrel were what interested me the most. I appreciate getting the pros from fyeguy and others. Pancakes, I understand you have issues with the Mosquito, but can you be more specific? I heard the same kind of comments when I would ask people about getting my Glock Ciener kit threaded ("I'm suprised yours even works...etc") but it was usually from guys who didn't own one, they just knew someone with one that sucks. I understand some have problems, but I am looking for some specifics. I really do appreciate getting the pros and cons. Andrew Sorry I got this all sidetracked on you. It was definately a rabbit trail. I interpreted from your question that you wanted something that was very reliable. Now, I know that a semi auto .22 pistol with 100% reliability is a rare occurance; but some are more reliable than others. The Browning and Ruger semi auto .22s have a better reputation for reliability than the Mosquito. Since you clarified that you did not mind if the Mosquito was not reliable all of the time, than go ahead and try one. A Mosquito will be good practice for that 229 you want to get, as long as you don't mind a malfunction every now and then. BTW, I really do like most Sigs a lot and have a 229. |
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Sorry I got this all sidetracked on you. It was definately a rabbit trail. I interpreted from your question that you wanted something that was very reliable. Now, I know that a semi auto .22 pistol with 100% reliability is a rare occurance; but some are more reliable than others. The Browning and Ruger semi auto .22s have a better reputation for reliability than the Mosquito. Since you clarified that you did not mind if the Mosquito was not reliable all of the time, than go ahead and try one. A Mosquito will be good practice for that 229 you want to get, as long as you don't mind a malfunction every now and then. BTW, I really do like most Sigs a lot and have a 229. No problem pancakes. I understand that .22 and reliability don't always go hand in hand, especially when talking I'm talking about shooting the Fed bulk stuff. Since my current conversion doesn't shoot Fed bulk or Rem Subsonics, pretty much any level of reliability if higher than I currently have. I have looked at the Browning and Ruger pistols, but the Sig design just catches my eye. That is why I am interested in hearing if there is a particular brand of ammo the Mosquito might not cycle, or if it doesn't function well after a certain number of rounds. I have seen that there are .22 conversions for the 229. Have you had any experience with those? I figured that chances would be better than none that a dedicated .22 pistol would be more reliable with different ammo than a conversion. Andrew |
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The older sigs supposidly had problems but my newer threaded one has been great for 500 or sou rounds out of the box. For a cheap threaded 22 you can't beat it. I might get a ruger with a tac sol barrel but that's more money. Yeah, for the $$ the Mosquito looked like such a good deal, especially with the factory threaded barrel. That's why I wanted to hear about what kind of ammo people were using. Are all of the factory threaded ones "newer" models? What kind of ammo were you shooting? Andrew |
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Quoted: Quoted: Sorry I got this all sidetracked on you. It was definately a rabbit trail. I interpreted from your question that you wanted something that was very reliable. Now, I know that a semi auto .22 pistol with 100% reliability is a rare occurance; but some are more reliable than others. The Browning and Ruger semi auto .22s have a better reputation for reliability than the Mosquito. Since you clarified that you did not mind if the Mosquito was not reliable all of the time, than go ahead and try one. A Mosquito will be good practice for that 229 you want to get, as long as you don't mind a malfunction every now and then. BTW, I really do like most Sigs a lot and have a 229. No problem pancakes. I understand that .22 and reliability don't always go hand in hand, especially when talking I'm talking about shooting the Fed bulk stuff. Since my current conversion doesn't shoot Fed bulk or Rem Subsonics, pretty much any level of reliability if higher than I currently have. I have looked at the Browning and Ruger pistols, but the Sig design just catches my eye. That is why I am interested in hearing if there is a particular brand of ammo the Mosquito might not cycle, or if it doesn't function well after a certain number of rounds. I have seen that there are .22 conversions for the 229. Have you had any experience with those? I figured that chances would be better than none that a dedicated .22 pistol would be more reliable with different ammo than a conversion. Andrew I haven't used a conversion kit. The .22 conversion kits for the 229 seem to be pretty new. But I did find this discussion on them for you. Reviews on them seem to be mixed with the most complaints being that the slide does not lock back. http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/5311084251?r=4341084251#4341084251 Top gun supply has them for sale here: http://www.topgunsupply.com/.22-conversion-kits/ The price ($313) is around the price of the Mosquitos I have seen (used for $300-$350 ish... ). I would agree with you on purchasing a .22 pistol rather than a conversion kit. I have just never heard great and wonderful things about .22 conversion kits. |
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I haven't used a conversion kit. The .22 conversion kits for the 229 seem to be pretty new. But I did find this discussion on them for you. Reviews on them seem to be mixed with the most complaints being that the slide does not lock back. http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/5311084251?r=4341084251#4341084251 Top gun supply has them for sale here: http://www.topgunsupply.com/.22-conversion-kits/ The price ($313) is around the price of the Mosquitos I have seen (used for $300-$350 ish... ). I would agree with you on purchasing a .22 pistol rather than a conversion kit. I have just never heard great and wonderful things about .22 conversion kits. Yes, those are the ones. I am surprised that one poster states that the Sigs with the conversion are more accurate than the Mosquito. That doesn't quite make sense. As much as I would love to get a 229 in the future, I certainly can't afford to purchase a new gun AND a conversion, when a decent .22 gun can be had for so much less. My Ciener kit does not lock the slide back either, which is a bit frustrating. My conversion kit is pretty primitive, with fixed black sights that are not replaceable. I do like that my kit has 12 round mags though. I believe that mags for the Glock 17/22 kit have 15 rounds. Maybe I will just bite the bullet and pick up a Mosquito and find out for myself. I would definitely be frustrated if it did not work well, but for less than $350 w/ threaded barrel it's still less than people are paying to get their hands on the Advantage Arms Glock conversions right now. Andrew |
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Quoted: Quoted: I haven't used a conversion kit. The .22 conversion kits for the 229 seem to be pretty new. But I did find this discussion on them for you. Reviews on them seem to be mixed with the most complaints being that the slide does not lock back. http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/5311084251?r=4341084251#4341084251 Top gun supply has them for sale here: http://www.topgunsupply.com/.22-conversion-kits/ The price ($313) is around the price of the Mosquitos I have seen (used for $300-$350 ish... ). I would agree with you on purchasing a .22 pistol rather than a conversion kit. I have just never heard great and wonderful things about .22 conversion kits. Yes, those are the ones. I am surprised that one poster states that the Sigs with the conversion are more accurate than the Mosquito. That doesn't quite make sense. As much as I would love to get a 229 in the future, I certainly can't afford to purchase a new gun AND a conversion, when a decent .22 gun can be had for so much less. My Ciener kit does not lock the slide back either, which is a bit frustrating. My conversion kit is pretty primitive, with fixed black sights that are not replaceable. I do like that my kit has 12 round mags though. I believe that mags for the Glock 17/22 kit have 15 rounds. Maybe I will just bite the bullet and pick up a Mosquito and find out for myself. I would definitely be frustrated if it did not work well, but for less than $350 w/ threaded barrel it's still less than people are paying to get their hands on the Advantage Arms Glock conversions right now. Andrew It seems that the accuracy difference is due primarily to the trigger differences between a mosquito and a 226. Here is the quote: "Pretty much the other way around. The conversions use the same trigger as the host gun and are more accurate than the Mosquito. I have had a P220 conversion, Mosquito and now a P226 conversion and the conversion sets are more accurate and as reliable if not more so than the Mosquito. Never had a problem with the Mosquito but the trigger wasnt the best in the world." In reality, it's probably six of one and half a dozen of the other as far as choosing between a mosquito and a conversion kit––except for the fact you don't have a 229 to put the conversion kit on. |
| i just bought a brand new mosquito the other day and took it to the range yesterday and shot 150 rd's of mini mag's through it w/o any problems, it feels great and shoots even better i would recommend it to any one!! I should have a few more rounds through it by next week and im sure it wont have any problems, |
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For what its worth –– Browning Buckmark and Ruger .22 revolver. Kind of amazes me just how personally you are taking this... The OP is asking about a pistol, you've advised him NOT to buy one multiple times yet you've never shot one. Just kind of funny I guess, doesn't impact me one way or the other. |
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Fyeguy / grndy27: How many rounds do you tend to shoot per session? Does the gun need a cleaning after "x" amount of rounds to ensure functioning? Andrew Usually a couple of hundred per range trip. I'm not sure how many rounds it would take to effect reliability, I usually just clean them all after each range session. |
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Fyeguy / grndy27: How many rounds do you tend to shoot per session? Does the gun need a cleaning after "x" amount of rounds to ensure functioning? Andrew Usually a couple of hundred per range trip. I'm not sure how many rounds it would take to effect reliability, I usually just clean them all after each range session. +1 same here any firearms I shoot gets cleaned when I come home. 1-2 hundred rounds per session with no ill effects. |
Thanks guys. I think I am going to pull the trigger  and get one next week. They only downside is finding cheap mags. I imagine they are just as up there in price as any other mag on the market right now. Any clue where I can pick up some for a decent price?
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No to scare you but mine's been terrible. Lots of jams and then after a few hundred rounds the trigger has been sticking back with every shot. I have to push it back forward with my finger and then it'd snap back into place. It's been sitting in my safe until I get around to sending it back.
I love what the gun is though. I really wanted a DA/SA semiauto .22 to help improve my shooting with my defensive DA/SA pistols. |
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No to scare you but mine's been terrible. Lots of jams and then after a few hundred rounds the trigger has been sticking back with every shot. I have to push it back forward with my finger and then it'd snap back into place. It's been sitting in my safe until I get around to sending it back. I love what the gun is though. I really wanted a DA/SA semiauto .22 to help improve my shooting with my defensive DA/SA pistols. From what I have been reading online it looks like the newer Moquito models have fixed many of the previous problems. However that is not a problem I have read about yet. How is Sig's customer service? Andrew |
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Mine was pretty rough at first, though it now runs 100% with Fed Automatch. The only mods I have done are putting a bore mop in an electric drill motor and used that to polish the chamber. It seems to have made the gun stop stovepiping rounds, and generally feed better. I'd buy another one today if I had the chance. |
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No to scare you but mine's been terrible. Lots of jams and then after a few hundred rounds the trigger has been sticking back with every shot. I have to push it back forward with my finger and then it'd snap back into place. It's been sitting in my safe until I get around to sending it back. I love what the gun is though. I really wanted a DA/SA semiauto .22 to help improve my shooting with my defensive DA/SA pistols. From what I have been reading online it looks like the newer Moquito models have fixed many of the previous problems. However that is not a problem I have read about yet. How is Sig's customer service? Andrew Mine's pretty new. I've had it maybe 9 months or so and I bought it brand new. I haven't even called Sig yet. I threw it in the safe and haven't gotten around to calling them yet to arrange warranty work. |
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I own two Mosquito's, both with threaded barrels.
One in black and the other in digital desert camo. Bought the digital desert pistol back in October 2008 and like it so much that I bought the black one in December 2008. Running Gemtech Outback 2 suppressors on both guns. I run CCI mini-mags, CCI Stingers, and Federal Match bulk-pack. Have both the original steel and the new SIG plastic magazines. No issues so far. Trigger pulls could be better...but after training with my Mosquito's for an hour or two and then transitioning to my larger guns, my P220 Combat and X5 triggers seem luxurious by comparison. |
| I own one and it's the biggest piece of shit I've ever owned. I have the threaded barrel version (bought it in 08, manufactured in 11.07) and have only "shot" CCI through it (so I know the ammo is not the problem). Multiple FTEs, FTFs, etc, etc. Hell, a CCI did not fire but wouldn't even eject when I cycled the slide manually. I also have tried running it with an Outback II and that doesn't do anything to improve it. My personal opinion is for you to buy something else in a .22 LR |
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I have the threaded barrel version (bought it in 08, manufactured in 11.07) and have only "shot" CCI through it (so I know the ammo is not the problem). Just curious, if you've only shot one kind of ammo through it, how do you know that the ammo is not the problem? |
The Sig Mosquito is definately a pandoras box to me. My best friend and I both bought Mosquitos on the same day went ot the range and shot Aguila, cci, winchester, remington, and fiochii mine had not a FTF FTE nothin, his on the other hand was nothin but FTF FTE and were both new We even used each others magazines still his had problems mine didnt which left us scratching are heads
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I have the threaded barrel version (bought it in 08, manufactured in 11.07) and have only "shot" CCI through it (so I know the ammo is not the problem). Just curious, if you've only shot one kind of ammo through it, how do you know that the ammo is not the problem? Both CCI mini mags and subsonic HPs, bought from different locations at different times. My guess is not all that CCI can be bad. |
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Quoted: Mine doesn't like CCI. It's not bad ammo, it's just not for that gun. Automatch is where it's at for mine.Quoted: Quoted: I have the threaded barrel version (bought it in 08, manufactured in 11.07) and have only "shot" CCI through it (so I know the ammo is not the problem). Just curious, if you've only shot one kind of ammo through it, how do you know that the ammo is not the problem? Both CCI mini mags and subsonic HPs, bought from different locations at different times. My guess is not all that CCI can be bad. |
| My wife wanted a mosquito, she bought a used one and it shoots just fine. Real pleased, this will also make a good practice gun, for me. Since i will be picking up a p229 in the near future. In all fairness we have only shot cci through it. Will shoot other brands this weekend and will report back. |
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I am surprised at the hit or miss function of the Mosquito from the reviews so far. It seems the only way to guarantee the Mosquito will be the 'one' would be to test fire the exact model you would be buying prior to buying. I appreciate all of the reviews!
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I bought a digital camo Mosquito in 2008. It comes with 2 guide rod springs. One is for hot ammo, the other for regular ammo. I shoot CCI minimags through it with the skinny spring, and CCI Stingers with the bigger spring. No problems. I did have some problems when shooting the CCI Stingers with the skinny spring, but after I read the instruction manual that came with the gun, I changed the springs out and go figure, it fixed the problem. The instruction manual says use the bigger/thicker spring for hot ammo. It's a cool gun. |
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My opinion is that they are junk....I would estimate that I get around 2 or 3 of every 10 of them I sell back in because they "won't run right" and I sell a shitload of them in a year's time. Sometimes it is an easy fix, such as different ammo, and other times it involves dealing with Sigs CS which is less than stellar.
I have owned two. The first was terrible. I thought I surely got a lemon so I tried another one, and it was junk too. It would be my recommendation to try something else. |
| Wow, nobody is ambivalent about these things. I've been thinking about picking one up to run with a can, especially since a nearby Class III dealer has a package deal with one of those and the silencer of choice. Can't figure it out by reading this thread, though. Seems like everyone either loves them or hates them. Anyone have a feeling about whether they run better with a can? |