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5/30/2006 8:32:52 AM EDT
I am new to shooting, and in fact have only been to the range a couple of times, but am considering getting my conceled handgun license eventually.  I dont currently own a gun, but need to get one so I dont have to continue to use my buddies.  What would be a good handgun to start with just to "hone" my skills a little before going with something a bit bigger.  MAybe some sort of 22???  If so which one is the most proven???
5/30/2006 8:53:21 AM EDT
[#1]
The things nice about a 22LR is that its cheap to shoot and you can shoot it all day w/o breaking the bank.

THEre are MANY 22s out there for you too choose.  It will depend on the $$$ and if you want a revolver or autoloader or long gun.

If you get an autoloader, there maybe a conversion kit in 22lr for it:

1911 style frames
CZ75/85 (kadet kit/pistol)
Glocks
Browning HP
EAA  45/22lr combo kit


also, dont overlook USED firearms.  If youre unfamiliar with what to look for in USED take someone that knows or find a dealer/gunsmith.

another tidbit..  if you have a local range, sometimes members will be selling their stuff and it would be a great way to test it before you buy.

Beretta:  Mostly autos.  they make some good ones tho.
Browning:  Mostly Autos too:  Buckmarks, nomads, ect.
CZ.  Autoloader.  Kadet comes in a conversion kit and complete pistol.
Colt:  Both revolvers (SA/DA) and autoloaders.  they arent being made, but you can find NIB or LNIB but at a price.  
High Standard:  alot of autos.  only have 1 of these.  dont make them anymore.
Kimber:  1911 style converion kit/complete pistol
Ruger:  Both Revolvers (SA/DA) and autoloaders.  they make alot of different styels and are usually inexpensive.  
SIG:  Autoloaders.  the new misquito is out.  want to get one, but havent. also the trailslide is nice.
S&W has both Autoloaders and revolvers to choose from. There are alot of good used S&W #17/K22 masterpieces out there that are fine revolvers
Walther:  Auto pistols.  P22.  some people have had bad luck with them.  i have one that works great.


5/30/2006 3:14:49 PM EDT
[#2]
I recently asked around about .22 auto pistols, the general consensus was (And this is for standard type .22s, not the higher dollar competition/target/elite models) the Browning Buckmark is arguably the best and right there with it is the Ruger MKIIIs. The Beretta Neos is very good (Thats the one I got) so are the SIGs, the Walther P22 has troubles.
As for prices, I found a basic buckmark for 249.00, I bought the Beretta for 219.00 the Rugers were a bit higher and so were the SIGs.
Oh, the High Standards were considered very good too but as I coudn't find any locally I have no idea about prices.
So far my Beretta has had about 7-800 rounds through it and the only problem I have encountered is a few times it has failed to completely eject the fired case. I think it happened once today when I was at the range I did fire about 120-150 rounds. Not a bad ratio if you ask me.
Did I mention I haven't bothered to clean it yet? I am testing to see just how long it can go without really getting gummed up.
6/2/2006 11:03:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Practice will lead to skill.  

Cheap ammo will lead to practice.  

.22's are the answer.  I still go through brick after brick through my target Ruger MkII.

I'd agree with most of what has been said:

First, I'm not a big fan of conversion kits.  Not really my fling, but I could see how some could argue their merit.

I noticed GaryM says he likes his Neos...  It obviously came off a different truck than the one my buddy bought.  The trigger on his was TERRIBLE and ended up with a pretty bad ratio of jams last time we were at the range.  And it's a pretty low mileage gun... probably <200rnds.

I have well over 10,000 (closer to 20,000) rounds through my Ruger MkII, love it to death.  Still shoots like a dream.  

My personal favorite (obviously) is the Ruger, but I've also found Buckmarks to be pretty nice.

Gundraw