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Posted: 7/22/2024 10:01:21 AM EST
I’m helping with an estate. I have requested serial numbers but don’t have them yet.
Is this a prelock Model 19?  Attached File Attached FileI have no idea about this one  Attached File Attached FileThanks! |
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Posted: 7/22/2024 10:09:27 AM EST
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Top appears to be stainless steel. That would make it a model 66. Pinned barrel would make it Pre 1982.
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Posted: 7/22/2024 10:12:27 AM EST
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Open the cylinder and look for the model inside the frame. The first gun looks like a Model 66 based on the trigger and hammer vs a nickel 19.
The second appears to be an M&P or Pre Model 10. Older with the extra screw. A solid old example with some nice looking grips. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2024 10:20:22 AM EST
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Yeah. I think the first posts nailed this. The spot to check is just inside where the cylinder swings down when opened.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2024 10:21:26 AM EST
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The blued M&P looks to be a refinished BSR .380/200. Barrel also looks like it was shortened from 5" to 4". After WWII many surplus BSRs were sold on the post war commercial market, with the modifications I mentioned as well as being re-chambered to .38 S&W Special. This made them more appealing to U.S. buyers
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Posted: 7/22/2024 10:30:31 AM EST
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Thanks. All I have is pictures. I’ve asked for serial numbers and model information but it’s an old lady and I don’t know if she can even open the cylinder 🙂
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Posted: 7/22/2024 11:14:43 AM EST
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The blued M&P is a pre-WWII gun with the "long action", you can tell by the visible hammer pin partially under the cylinder release. Need to find out if the right side barrel caliber rollmark says 38 S&W, or 38 S&W Special.
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Posted: 7/22/2024 11:23:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlvinYork]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rrbgeb: Open the cylinder and look for the model inside the frame. The first gun looks like a Model 66 based on the trigger and hammer vs a nickel 19. The second appears to be an M&P or Pre Model 10. Older with the extra screw. A solid old example with some nice looking grips. this. it will also tell you which variation of the revolver it is. Contact whoever is holding them and ask them to do it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2024 1:01:00 PM EST
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+1 looks like stainless not nickle. 66 most likely. There are nickeled model 19s.
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Posted: 7/22/2024 1:23:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: SiVisPacem]
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Those grips on the bottom gun look exactly like those on my M&P 1905, 4th Change. They're plastic and are known as Franzite grips. They were made by a Chicago company, Sports, Inc, from the 1930's until the 1960's and were popular many years ago.
 Attached File Attached FileAs an aside, the company which created Franzite grips, Sports, Inc., was owned by Peter von Frantzius, who, as the owner of von Frantzius Sporting Goods, supplied guns to various members of the Chicago underworld, to include guns which were used in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre (the store and the guns are mentioned in the coroner's inquest into the massacre). |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2024 5:52:46 PM EST
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Bottom gun looks like a war model or early post war m&p model by looking at the end of the ejector rod knob , has a half round front sight, and a long throw hammer. Could tell more with a serial #
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2024 5:55:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: Gunrunr]
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Looks like the barrel has been shortened.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/5/2024 12:03:22 AM EST
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Here to confirm people's suspicions. Top gun is 100% a 66. Bottom gun has 100% been shortened and refinished, original caliber as .38 S&W does suggest it's a British Service Revolver from early WWII. It's probably been reamed for .38 Special too.
First gun is fairly valuable, say $800. Second gun is not, maybe $350 at most. |
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