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8/9/2007 12:20:00 PM EDT
im currently in a debate with my brother over newer polymer designs vs older designs that can be had at great deals.

one of our current arguments is something like the Steyr M-A1 vs the HK P7 PSP

the MSRP on a Steyr is ~$550 while on CDNN you can get german police trade-ins for PSP in 95% or better condition for around $600

he thinks that because the PSP is an older design that its quality is somewhat worse then the new Steyr. when telling him that a new PSP would probably cost over $1000 he responds that price doesnt mean its better. so how do you argue with these type of people?
8/9/2007 1:31:21 PM EDT
[#1]
You don't. You roll your eyes and walk away. If they ask why, just tell him the longer you listen to his crap. the lower your IQ gets.
8/9/2007 1:33:43 PM EDT
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im currently in a debate with my brother over newer polymer designs vs older designs that can be had at great deals.

one of our current arguments is something like the Steyr M-A1 vs the HK P7 PSP

the MSRP on a Steyr is ~$550 while on CDNN you can get german police trade-ins for PSP in 95% or better condition for around $600

he thinks that because the PSP is an older design that its quality is somewhat worse then the new Steyr. when telling him that a new PSP would probably cost over $1000 he responds that price doesnt mean its better. so how do you argue with these type of people?


You can't reason with people like that.  Tell him you got all the good genes, and that hes simply retarded.
8/9/2007 4:26:32 PM EDT
[#3]
 So when did price ever make a better product?  I have a bridge I want to sell ya'll it has an HK stamp and everything
8/9/2007 4:54:09 PM EDT
[#4]
one of the major arguments i tend to run into is that said people, often have a phobia against used firearms, even if the firearms is in practically new and relatively unfired condition.

is a 20 year old firearms bad? because i could take for example the P7 PSP being sold, and probably once the supply of them from CDNN runs out, turn around to a local dealer or on gunbroker and sell if for a 40% profit.

or i could take the same amount of money, but a less well engineered firearms like a Steyr M-A1 and most likely only have it depreciate in value. IMO the value of something like the PSP is still very high because people realize that its a very well engineered peice. why else would people spend 1200-1500 on one, in these days when you could get an equally expensive kimber 1911? so if i had my choice between two guns, one at which i can buy at a 50% discount of its MSRP in new condition ( which it practically is) and in the future most likely sell if for a profit if its not to my liking, or a new product that is swamped on the market. this isnt even getting into the aspect of which is a better combat/defense pistol. just on pure economics it seems this one is entirely one sided. negating the "cool" or choice factor.
8/10/2007 2:49:23 PM EDT
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or i could take the same amount of money, but a less well engineered firearms like a Steyr M-A1 and most likely only have it depreciate in value. IMO the value of something like the PSP is still very high because people realize that its a very well engineered peice. why else would people spend 1200-1500 on one, in these days when you could get an equally expensive kimber 1911?


I love my PSP, but I wouldn't expect them to appreciate significantly in value. Up until these imports came around, lightly used PSPs could be had for $800-$900. The Germans have traded in close to 17,000 of these pistols. So far, I have seen over 4,000 of them come in through RSR Group (distributor) since June, not to mention whatever volume CDNN has gone through. They're not exactly rare, and I wouldn't expect the value to appreciate much more than $100, if that, over a few years. That is, unless you plan on pulling one of those Gunbroker stunts....