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https://sig-sauer.bynder.com/web/bb5c8f71eab1ab47/sig-next-2026/?viewType=grid Lots of photos. Text only link if you want to copy and paste (or your browser hotlinks it for you) https://sig-sauer.bynder.com/web/bb5c8f71eab1ab47/sig-next-2026/?viewType=grid The link comes from Here |
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Originally Posted By leelaw: Does the link work for anyone else? https://sig-sauer.bynder.com/web/bb5c8f71eab1ab47/sig-next-2026/?viewType=grid Text only https://sig-sauer.bynder.com/web/bb5c8f71eab1ab47/sig-next-2026/?viewType=grid After posting, I think the first link is getting buggered up by ARFCOM I posted the second as text only and my browser turned it into a hot link on my phone and it worked fine. |
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Basically took the 365 fcu, made it larger and fixed any complaints that were heard during armorers courses for assembly and disassembly. This pistol has been in the works well before any 320 controversies as it’s just a new generation pistol. 320 isn’t going anywhere. The swiss just selected the m17/m18 pistols for their new military contract. Has a trigger block since customers asked for it. Recoil absorption system in the grip module and lower bore axis similar to the 365. Sig heavily utilized the academy instructors for feedback on this pistol and it shows. They beat the crap out of them and any issues that popped up from reliability or comfort issues led to changes and upgrades. Super excited for this one. Full disclosure- i work for Sig. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Basically took the 365 fcu, made it larger and fixed any complaints that were heard during armorers courses for assembly and disassembly. This pistol has been in the works well before any 320 controversies as it’s just a new generation pistol. 320 isn’t going anywhere. The swiss just selected the m17/m18 pistols for their new military contract. Has a trigger block since customers asked for it. Recoil absorption system in the grip module and lower bore axis similar to the 365. Sig heavily utilized the academy instructors for feedback on this pistol and it shows. They beat the crap out of them and any issues that popped up from reliability or comfort issues led to changes and upgrades. Super excited for this one. Full disclosure- i work for Sig. Excellent info, thanks to you as well.  By any chance is the trigger any better than the p365? I like the pistol and have two but it truly has the worst trigger of any pistol I own. |
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Photo posted on Facebook by Larry Vickers, cause pics make everything better. This appears to be the compact model. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I mean nobody is buying them. When police trade ins with optics are $400, that tells you everything you need to know. |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: I mean nobody is buying them. When police trade ins with optics are $400, that tells you everything you need to know. Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I mean nobody is buying them. When police trade ins with optics are $400, that tells you everything you need to know. I’ve looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven’t found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: What's the difference between p385 and the p365 macro? They look the same? Eta: ah I see. They scaled up the 365 FCU to be a full size gun and it's compatible with 320 mags. It's the quiet replacement for the cursed 320. Looks like full ambi, too. |
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The scooped cutouts on the slide look very similar to the Walther PDP, which I like. Not quite as deep and with more closely spaced serrations. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By bm3: I've looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven't found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. https://www.cdnnsports.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?cat=20&q=p320 https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-sig-sauer-p320-rxp-carry-9mm-handgun-black https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-sig-sauer-p320-full-size-9mm-handgun |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Basically took the 365 fcu, made it larger and fixed any complaints that were heard during armorers courses for assembly and disassembly. This pistol has been in the works well before any 320 controversies as it's just a new generation pistol. 320 isn't going anywhere. The swiss just selected the m17/m18 pistols for their new military contract. Has a trigger block since customers asked for it. Recoil absorption system in the grip module and lower bore axis similar to the 365. Sig heavily utilized the academy instructors for feedback on this pistol and it shows. They beat the crap out of them and any issues that popped up from reliability or comfort issues led to changes and upgrades. Super excited for this one. Full disclosure- i work for Sig.  There is a pretty cool frt+machine pistol chassis for the 320 |
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Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I don't think SIG wants to that say that out loud, but I don't think we'll see anymore new P320 available in stores. In a year or 2 they will say the P385 is selling so well we decided to stop civilian P320 production. They will keep the 320 on for existing govt contracts. |
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Originally Posted By bm3: I’ve looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven’t found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. No one is buying them in Louisville. Kygunco won't even take them in trade (I bought mine from them). They are radioactive. I wish I could $400 out of mine. Its essentially brand new. F-SiG |
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Originally Posted By bm3: I've looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven't found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. Originally Posted By bm3: Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I mean nobody is buying them. When police trade ins with optics are $400, that tells you everything you need to know. I've looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven't found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. GT Distributors won't sell them in store so they dump them on their GunBroker page. Most of them are starting at $199. I never follow them to see where they end up, but I don't think any of them are reaching 400 unless they have the enclosed optic installed. |
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Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I assume thats the plan for the longer run, in a few years time. They'll keep production going for .gov contracts, and as well as to potentially address markets that have stupid rules like handgun rosters where the 320 is on the approved list. but their manufacturing capacity is definitely going to be given priority to the other product lines. But I imagine in the much sooner future they'll be pushing the 385 for government contracts citing the improvements of the platform over the 320. As the existing .gov contracts end they'll eventually get to the point to where they'll sunset the product line. for the civilian market it makes no sense to try and keep up the manufacturing to have competing product lines within your own brand. aside from the restricted states as mentioned above, you will see the 320 drop in availability and prominence pretty quick. |
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Originally Posted By DavidY: GT Distributors won't sell them in store so they dump them on their GunBroker page. Most of them are starting at $199. I never follow them to see where they end up, but I don't think any of them are reaching 400 unless they have the enclosed optic installed. Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By bm3: Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I mean nobody is buying them. When police trade ins with optics are $400, that tells you everything you need to know. I've looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven't found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. GT Distributors won't sell them in store so they dump them on their GunBroker page. Most of them are starting at $199. I never follow them to see where they end up, but I don't think any of them are reaching 400 unless they have the enclosed optic installed. That's weird, I was in there a couple of weeks ago and they had some 320s in their used gun case at the store in Garland. The 320s were priced about the same as their used Glocks. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: Basically took the 365 fcu, made it larger and fixed any complaints that were heard during armorers courses for assembly and disassembly. This pistol has been in the works well before any 320 controversies as it’s just a new generation pistol. 320 isn’t going anywhere. The swiss just selected the m17/m18 pistols for their new military contract. Has a trigger block since customers asked for it. Recoil absorption system in the grip module and lower bore axis similar to the 365. Sig heavily utilized the academy instructors for feedback on this pistol and it shows. They beat the crap out of them and any issues that popped up from reliability or comfort issues led to changes and upgrades. Super excited for this one. Full disclosure- i work for Sig. Please tell us more? @dbaird How has the failure of the 320 affected business? You should start your own AMA thread? |
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Originally Posted By scuba_steve: Excellent info, thanks to you as well. By any chance is the trigger any better than the p365? I like the pistol and have two but it truly has the worst trigger of any pistol I own. I personally find the 385 trigger much better than any of the 365’s. I had zero complaints when shooting them. Originally Posted By ban-hater: Please tell us more? @dbaird How has the failure of the 320 affected business? You should start your own AMA thread? I am definitely NOT an authority on anything with the business so i can only speak from what i have seen personally at my role as a trainer. I am at events almost every week where we demo all our guns. 320’s are requested by people at almost every single one. The sxg and the legion x5 being the ones they want to try. I have been yelled at by people at events about it. Mostly their lost value which i understand the frustration. I personally believe the 320 is an excellent handgun and i use one at every class i do with no issues. Our academy uses them loaner guns and they shoot millions of rounds a year. If there truly was a problem it would have been addressed. But good luck fighting the internet. Having seen the amount of r&d and work put into the 385 i have zero doubt it will be a winner. Just in the grip module they did over 200 variations to get the feel just right. Instructors put them through multiple classes to find potential hot spots that can be created on different size hands etc. Im excited for people to get hands on with them. We have all stayed very busy lately. |
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Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K: That's weird, I was in there a couple of weeks ago and they had some 320s in their used gun case at the store in Garland. The 320s were priced about the same as their used Glocks. Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K: Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By bm3: Originally Posted By DavidY: Originally Posted By Spartan16: Wonder if they're trying to phase out the 320 I mean nobody is buying them. When police trade ins with optics are $400, that tells you everything you need to know. I've looked all over for the trade ins and dump offs and haven't found one yet. Every weekend while shooting I see them at the range. People are still buying them. GT Distributors won't sell them in store so they dump them on their GunBroker page. Most of them are starting at $199. I never follow them to see where they end up, but I don't think any of them are reaching 400 unless they have the enclosed optic installed. That's weird, I was in there a couple of weeks ago and they had some 320s in their used gun case at the store in Garland. The 320s were priced about the same as their used Glocks. I assume you mean Dallas. I haven't seen a 320 in a loooong time. They have had several 365s in the used case (they just had one left this morning). I'm usually in there 2-3 times a month. Very slim pickings of anything used today. A few ARs, the same three shotguns (88, O/U and something that looks Turkish) and only three Glocks. A new G45 MOS and two used G45s ($399 with only one magazine each). You can tell sales are down when almost all of the used Glocks came with three magazines, then they started it selling them with two magazines and was selling the extra magazine separately. Now just one magazine. |
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I like how all the reviewers are shooting flat with it. Dampener should be helping alot. Or, the additional 6oz the P385 has over its P365 counterpart. I was hoping this would be a wider grip like the M17, that gun held well and shot well for me. The P365, even the Fuse, is just thin for me. The P385 is less than a quarter inch thicker than the P365, but more than a quarter inch thinner than the M17. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: I personally find the 385 trigger much better than any of the 365’s. I had zero complaints when shooting them. I am definitely NOT an authority on anything with the business so i can only speak from what i have seen personally at my role as a trainer. I am at events almost every week where we demo all our guns. 320’s are requested by people at almost every single one. The sxg and the legion x5 being the ones they want to try. I have been yelled at by people at events about it. Mostly their lost value which i understand the frustration. I personally believe the 320 is an excellent handgun and i use one at every class i do with no issues. Our academy uses them loaner guns and they shoot millions of rounds a year. If there truly was a problem it would have been addressed. But good luck fighting the internet. Having seen the amount of r&d and work put into the 385 i have zero doubt it will be a winner. Just in the grip module they did over 200 variations to get the feel just right. Instructors put them through multiple classes to find potential hot spots that can be created on different size hands etc. Im excited for people to get hands on with them. We have all stayed very busy lately. Originally Posted By dbaird: Originally Posted By scuba_steve: Excellent info, thanks to you as well. By any chance is the trigger any better than the p365? I like the pistol and have two but it truly has the worst trigger of any pistol I own. I personally find the 385 trigger much better than any of the 365’s. I had zero complaints when shooting them. Originally Posted By ban-hater: Please tell us more? @dbaird How has the failure of the 320 affected business? You should start your own AMA thread? I am definitely NOT an authority on anything with the business so i can only speak from what i have seen personally at my role as a trainer. I am at events almost every week where we demo all our guns. 320’s are requested by people at almost every single one. The sxg and the legion x5 being the ones they want to try. I have been yelled at by people at events about it. Mostly their lost value which i understand the frustration. I personally believe the 320 is an excellent handgun and i use one at every class i do with no issues. Our academy uses them loaner guns and they shoot millions of rounds a year. If there truly was a problem it would have been addressed. But good luck fighting the internet. Having seen the amount of r&d and work put into the 385 i have zero doubt it will be a winner. Just in the grip module they did over 200 variations to get the feel just right. Instructors put them through multiple classes to find potential hot spots that can be created on different size hands etc. Im excited for people to get hands on with them. We have all stayed very busy lately. Does the P385 use P320/P250 barrels? ETA: GD threads: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Is-Sig-going-to-quietly-drop-the-P320-/5-2858951/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Sig-NEXT-2026/5-2859433/ |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Does the P385 use P320/P250 barrels? ETA: GD threads: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Is-Sig-going-to-quietly-drop-the-P320-/5-2858951/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Sig-NEXT-2026/5-2859433/ Negative on the taking 320 barrels. Also note there’s 2 new models of 320 included in this launch. People still buy and love their 320’s  |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: One thing I really like is how low-profile the slide release lever is on the P385. That design used to be even more low profile, possibly too low. One neat thing was the academy not only used experienced shooters give input but also brand new shooters. One note from the new people was it was too difficult for them to use it to manually lock the slide back so it went through a rework to be what it is now. Just right for both. |
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Photo posted on Facebook by Larry Vickers, cause pics make everything better. This appears to be the compact model. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27888/SIG_P385_Larry_Vickers_Facebook_jpg-3831588.JPG That part line in the grip where the "Mag Strap" connects looks like it could use some refinement. That looks like a potentially uncomfortable ridge. I was never a P320 fan but the P385 looks like it it has potential. Very curios to get my hands on one. |
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Originally Posted By LamePostCount: That part line in the grip where the "Mag Strap" connects looks like it could use some refinement. That looks like a potentially uncomfortable ridge. I was never a P320 fan but the P385 looks like it it has potential. Very curios to get my hands on one. Everyone ive spoke to thats held one hasn’t even noticed the line between the 2. Very snug and clean fit in the examples ive seen. If any instructors noticed an issue it would have been corrected in the 200+ variations of the grip modules. I personally don’t notice it one bit. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: I personally find the 385 trigger much better than any of the 365’s. I had zero complaints when shooting them. I am definitely NOT an authority on anything with the business so i can only speak from what i have seen personally at my role as a trainer. I am at events almost every week where we demo all our guns. 320’s are requested by people at almost every single one. The sxg and the legion x5 being the ones they want to try. I have been yelled at by people at events about it. Mostly their lost value which i understand the frustration. I personally believe the 320 is an excellent handgun and i use one at every class i do with no issues. Our academy uses them loaner guns and they shoot millions of rounds a year. If there truly was a problem it would have been addressed. But good luck fighting the internet. Having seen the amount of r&d and work put into the 385 i have zero doubt it will be a winner. Just in the grip module they did over 200 variations to get the feel just right. Instructors put them through multiple classes to find potential hot spots that can be created on different size hands etc. Im excited for people to get hands on with them. We have all stayed very busy lately. Any internal hubbub for any other calibers? 10mm, 30SC. Etc. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: Any internal hubbub for any other calibers? 10mm, 30SC. Etc. At this time no. The xten still does very well and will probably tote the line for the 10mm market for a while. Originally Posted By scuba_steve: Thanks. Of course, that's a pretty low bar.  Really looking forward to getting to shoot one. They should be hitting stores very soon. Hoping for my demo models any day now, fingers crossed. |
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Originally Posted By dbaird: At this time no. The xten still does very well and will probably tote the line for the 10mm market for a while. They should be hitting stores very soon. Hoping for my demo models any day now, fingers crossed. If you know anyone… tell them the market needs a P365 and P385 in 30SC more than we need anymore rainbow colored guns. |
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Photo posted on Facebook by Larry Vickers, cause pics make everything better. This appears to be the compact model. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27888/SIG_P385_Larry_Vickers_Facebook_jpg-3831588.JPG I'd like to see the 385 and 365 side by side for comparison. |
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