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9/11/2011 5:20:11 PM EDT
I'm buying a used PMR-30 at the end of the week, and it has both the old and the new barrel.  The owner said he's never experienced the keyholing issue, but went ahead and requested and received a new barrel, anyway.

My question is this:  At what shooting distance does the keyholing typically become evident?

I'm really looking forward to having and shooting this gun.  I'm hoping the old barrel never had the keyholing issue, and that I can just keep the new one as a spare.

Please let me know if there are any other issues for which I should be looking.  I don't think the round count is very high on this one.  Maybe 500 or so.
9/12/2011 9:23:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Hi,Have only run a few rounds thru mine, shoots great. Caution, just because it's a 22 wear hearing protection. It's louder than my 45, with the recommended ammo. Have fun                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Beware of zombies dressed in flags
9/14/2011 5:11:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Hi,Have only run a few rounds thru mine, shoots great. Caution, just because it's a 22 wear hearing protection. It's louder than my 45, with the recommended ammo. Have fun                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Beware of zombies dressed in flags


I'm hearing they shoot a pretty nice fireball, too.  I'm picking one up tomorrow night.
9/15/2011 7:42:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Got my PMR-30 today!  I knew it would be lightweight, but I'm still surprised, especially with a full mag.  I can't wait to hit the range with this thing.  

9/18/2011 5:08:32 AM EDT
[#4]
I fired my PMR yesterday.  Wow!  This thing is fun.  I only shot 2 full mags, but it cycled flawlessly, incluidng 30 rounds of Fiocchi hollow point.  It recommends against Fiocchi ammo to avoid fte's or ftf's.  (I ran the Fiocchi because it was mostly all I had.)

I think I'm going to love this gun!  

Is anyone even here?  I'm hearing cricketts.
9/18/2011 5:13:32 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Hi,Have only run a few rounds thru mine, shoots great. Caution, just because it's a 22 wear hearing protection. It's louder than my 45, with the recommended ammo. Have fun                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Beware of zombies dressed in flags


You were right about how loud this thing is.  Between the loudness of the gun and a new steel shelter over our shooting range, it nearly overwhelmed my electronic ear muffs.

I was also surprised at how light the trigger pull is on tis thing.  I've got some sighting-in to do, though.  It shoots pretty wide left.
9/18/2011 5:38:59 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm loving mine, the fireball this thing throws is impressive! Loud is a bit of an understatement, mine is every bit as loud as my daughter's SP2022 9mm. I can't wait until the threaded barrel for this puppy hits the KT web site.

So far, mine has fed and fired every ammo type I've fed it. The list: Winchester, Armscor, Fiocchi, BVAC, Federal, & CCI Maxi-Mag, all 40 gr. Not being in love with fiber optic sights, I put a Burris Fastfire II red dot on it using the mount from the KT web site and will be going this week to zero it at the range.

At 19 ounces, fully loaded, it feels like a toy, but it makes a mess like a real handgun, without question!
9/22/2011 4:23:22 PM EDT
[#7]
This might becme my favorite gun.  Let me know how you like it with the Burris Fastfire.  I'm thinking of going with that setup, too.

Quoted:
I'm loving mine, the fireball this thing throws is impressive! Loud is a bit of an understatement, mine is every bit as loud as my daughter's SP2022 9mm. I can't wait until the threaded barrel for this puppy hits the KT web site.

So far, mine has fed and fired every ammo type I've fed it. The list: Winchester, Armscor, Fiocchi, BVAC, Federal, & CCI Maxi-Mag, all 40 gr. Not being in love with fiber optic sights, I put a Burris Fastfire II red dot on it using the mount from the KT web site and will be going this week to zero it at the range.

At 19 ounces, fully loaded, it feels like a toy, but it makes a mess like a real handgun, without question!


10/21/2011 5:22:49 AM EDT
[#8]
What kind of real world prices are you guys seeing PMR-30's selling for?        I'm not talking about the inflated prices you see on Gun Broker either.
10/21/2011 5:38:14 PM EDT
[#9]
One dealer close to me told me they sell them for just over 300 bucks.  They said they don't last through the afternoon when they receive them, though.  Some guys stand around and wait for the UPS truck.  I bought mine used for 400 bucks.  It cam with a new barrel, four magazines, a holster, and 950 rounds of ammo.
10/24/2011 1:10:15 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm waiting on a threaded barrel.
10/25/2011 2:59:33 AM EDT
[#11]
Kel-Tec keeps telling me that a threaded barrel will be available sometime around the first of the year. What year, exactly, they didn't say....
10/25/2011 9:21:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Kel-Tec keeps telling me that a threaded barrel will be available sometime around the first of the year. What year, exactly, they didn't say....




Last I have heard them are planning end of this year. Was unaware of any delay....
10/25/2011 9:59:05 AM EDT
[#13]
I've got a brand new one, just picked it up last week.  Shot it on Saturday, and experienced about 4-5 keyholes out of about 50 rounds.  I was shooting Remington 40 gr. round nose, and some Hornady V-Max 30gr.   I wasn't really shooting for accuracy, just shooting a piece of OSB about 50 yards away.  I'll probably go shoot again on Saturday, this time on paper and closer.  It's supposed to have the new barrel (W3xxx serial), so I'm somewhat bummed I had a few keyholes.  Might just have to try out several different rounds until I find one she likes.
10/26/2011 2:12:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Is the barrel fluted or round with a flare at the end? If the latter, it's the new barrel.

What ammo was keyholing on you? Kel-Tec has reported that some of the 40 grain CCI Maxi-Mags will still do this, why, I don't know. Mine has never keyholed on me with any of the loads I've tried, so far. I have been running a lot of Armscor and BVAC (cheap ammo from CTD) through mine, along with some Federal, all 40 grain loads.
10/29/2011 12:03:45 PM EDT
[#15]
I saw one of these today at my local fun store. It took everything i had NOT to buy it! I'm not one of those people that believes you have to have the biggest caliber possible in a hand gun. i think I'd ratherr have 30 rds of .22WMR Then the 12rds of 9mm in my M&P 9c. I'd be willing to bet that i could fire off rounds quicker with the PMR then I can my M&P, staying on target that is. Dan, how you liking your PMR?
10/29/2011 1:28:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I saw one of these today at my local fun store. It took everything i had NOT to buy it! I'm not one of those people that believes you have to have the biggest caliber possible in a hand gun. i think I'd ratherr have 30 rds of .22WMR Then the 12rds of 9mm in my M&P 9c. I'd be willing to bet that i could fire off rounds quicker with the PMR then I can my M&P, staying on target that is. Dan, how you liking your PMR?


I like it a lot.  The trigger is very light, and I'm having to get used to that.  You can pop off 30 rounds so fast, you wouldn't believe it.  There's a nice fireball, too.  I'm running the new barrel, after swapping the old one out.  The standard sights were not adjusted correctly, so I'm wondering if the new barrel had anything to do with that.  I just put a Primary Arms green dot micro sight on it, and that's pretty cool, but I've not been able to dial it in as tight as I'd like.  It is fine at about 10 yards, but I'd like to have some consistency at 25 yards.  I'm not sure if the sight holds zero well or not yet.  I might throw it on an accurate .22 rifle to see how it does, and then put it back on the PMR.

One of my favorite things about the PMR is its light weight.  I can't get over how light it is, even with a full mag.  It is a really neat little gun.  If I can get some accuracy out of it, it will be a keeper.  If not, I'll trade it for something else down the road.  I hope I can get it dialed-in.

I've read from most folks that they are pretty accurate, so I'm optimistic at this point.
10/29/2011 2:37:06 PM EDT
[#17]
Kinda funny, i ran back up to the LGS around 4:45 and it was sold! They are gonna try and get another one but he said it could be awhile. He had two his morning and sold both today. Hot little gun, I'm gonna have to get one for myself and see what all the fuss is about.
11/1/2011 10:38:32 AM EDT
[#18]
I've been asking for one at 3 local shops, and none can get them in stock.  Man, I've been drooling over these since last spring and should have picked one up when I had the chance.
11/3/2011 6:19:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Same here, I've been asking around and only one has gotten one in and sold it within two days. I did see one at a local gun show recently but asking price was $550! Don't mind paying a little over MSRP for something scarce but he was too far from what I was willing to pay.
11/5/2011 4:49:19 PM EDT
[#20]
I love mine, paid $399 and would buy another one if I could find it at that price.
12/22/2011 3:28:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Guess I got really lucky since I paid $289 OTD.

Quoted:
I love mine, paid $399 and would buy another one if I could find it at that price.


12/23/2011 5:41:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Just received mine .. yeah $75 more than MSRP, love it  ......  great tirgger pull. Use Kel Tec mag loading procedure, Mags need a little break-in.
2/7/2012 5:55:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Why are they  so hard to find yet?
2/11/2012 9:54:55 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Why are they  so hard to find yet?


Because Kel-Tec still hasn't figured out how to run a business.  Availablity on the PMR-30 and KSG are both a joke.  I don't see any new product of their's being any different anytime soon either.

2/14/2012 2:02:39 AM EDT
[#25]
Friend got one at a local show for $365 out the door. Im pissed they didn't have 2 for sale. A lot lighter than I thought it would be, but still feels good and actually looks pretty damn cool as well. We got it probably 15 minutes after the doors opened. Any longer and I'm sure it would have been gone.
2/14/2012 6:16:42 AM EDT
[#26]
Have there been any problems other than the keyholes. And would it make a good ccw?
2/21/2012 6:52:16 PM EDT
[#27]
I've had my PMR-30 since march of 2011, still amazed at its accuracy , light weight and I love the trigger pull. Last summer I was siteing in my ar at 80 yards. For the fun of it I tried the PMR, low and behold I was hitting paper very wel actually. With two mags = 60 rnds how much more can you ask for. I've found 30 grn CCI , Remington, Winchester works best. Stay away from the dyno points to dirty. Also the manuel says lightly oil, follow the instructions.
2/29/2012 5:25:13 PM EDT
[#28]
any news on the threaded barrel yet? If they sell one that comes with a threaded barrel, I'm in as it would be super cool with a suppressor and the ss sparrow is rated for 22mag.
3/1/2012 2:53:47 AM EDT
[#29]
Don't try to say anything about that on KTOG, they'll all tell you it's impossible to run a can on the PMR 30.

No threaded barrels available, yet. I just checked with Kel-Tec, again, yesterday.
3/13/2012 6:28:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Man I want one! Haven't found one in stock in my area.
3/21/2012 7:49:44 AM EDT
[#31]
Man, I cannot wait for the .22LR conversion to come out, but I'm thinking about just going ahead and picking one up and stocking some .22mag.

I can't wait for the RMR-30.
3/21/2012 6:05:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Man, I cannot wait for the .22LR conversion to come out, but I'm thinking about just going ahead and picking one up and stocking some .22mag.

I can't wait for the RMR-30.

Me either.  Closest I'll ever get to something similar to the mp7.
3/21/2012 7:07:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Yeh, I think I like the RMR better.. maybe... :)
3/21/2012 7:15:40 PM EDT
[#34]
I have yet to see one locally, shop or show, at any price.



Unless it is marked up to double MSRP, I'll probably buy the first one I can get my hands on...