Posted: 12/31/2009 11:08:10 AM EDT
| Does anyone have experience shooting a lot with the plastic guide rod? I am inclined to change it out with a metal version but don't want to if I don't have to. |
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I recently got a broken plastic guide rod from a member on BerettaForum... there were a lot of discussions, and I want to see if a broken plastic rod has any negative bearing on function (had to find a truly broken rod, instead of breaking one myself, being I never heard of it before).
Anyways, I haven't had the time to test it out. Will likely do it sometime between now and February. If you go on BerettaForum (which I recommend for info on these pistols, and the deals that go on, like that new compensator sale), I will likely post there whenever I can put some ammo and time towards it. |
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I don't see the polymer guide as an upgrade except for military operation in the fine sand environment their in or for someone here living in the same where it would be a benefit. Otherwise I've found the Wolff one piece steel guide rods smoother in cycling and a little better for accuracy. As far as bending one if you dropped your pistol with the slide lockup back, that would have to be quite a drop. There far from weak. For the 92FS/M9 polymer guide rods I've dented mine just rolling off the table to the floor. I'm more worried one would crack from the hit in the slide back scenario. My CX4 GR snapped like a twig when my slide, slid out by accident and hit the bed mere inches of distance and is made of the same polymer. I'll stick with the Wolff myself. |
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I recently got a broken plastic guide rod from a member on BerettaForum... there were a lot of discussions, and I want to see if a broken plastic rod has any negative bearing on function (had to find a truly broken rod, instead of breaking one myself, being I never heard of it before). Anyways, I haven't had the time to test it out. Will likely do it sometime between now and February. If you go on BerettaForum (which I recommend for info on these pistols, and the deals that go on, like that new compensator sale), I will likely post there whenever I can put some ammo and time towards it. You would not want to use a broken guide rod IMHO. |
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You would not want to use a broken guide rod IMHO. They work in other platforms... I am going to test it to find out what happens. Personally, if someone did break their guide rod (and understand, the rod I was sent was the first I've heard of), it is happening at the range. First instinct, it is broken and I'm going to stop shooting until it is fixed. I've asked if anyone has any rounds through a Beretta with a broken rod, and it was just like finding someone that actually broke the rod... nobody. If you were ever on BerettaForum, you'd see threads that go on and on about which is better; polymer or metal. The main argument is that metal rods are stronger, and I want to see whether or not it is a valid argument. If someone is going to say a metal rod is superior since the polymer can break and cause issues, I want to see it. At the very worst, I'll screw up my recoil spring. I replace them each year (April), so it isn't that big of a deal. |
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I just don't see how the plastic guide rod could be seen as more non-bending when I can bend one with my hands while not even coming close to bending a Wolff with as much force as I can apply and my hands becoming sore. Quite a few manufacturers are still using steel guide rods too from what I've found unless things have changed. For example; Sig Sauer, Springfield and H&K as far as I know and their far from low line manufacturers. Use what you prefer, but OP, it's only going to cost you about 25 bucks to see if the Wolff's are for you. The Beretta OEM steel guides are not the same either. There two piece and not as precision from what I've found. Wolff 92 
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If you don't know what you are doing while breaking down the pistol, they make for great across the room projectiles. Ask me how I know.
The second time taking it apart my dad opens her up, and pop it goes shooting past my head. We couldn't find it and ended up replacing it with a stainless steal guide rod. |
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I just don't see how the plastic guide rod could be seen as more non-bending when I can bend one with my hands while not even coming close to bending a Wolff with as much force as I can apply and my hands becoming sore. Quite a few manufacturers are still using steel guide rods too from what I've found unless things have changed. For example; Sig Sauer, Springfield and H&K as far as I know and their far from low line manufacturers. Use what you prefer, but OP, it's only going to cost you about 25 bucks to see if the Wolff's are for you. The Beretta OEM steel guides are not the same either. There two piece and not as precision from what I've found. It is not that they are non-bending... but that when bent, they will go back to their original position. Like I mentioned, I've yet to see a bent metal rod. Do I think it is possible? Yep, just heat it up and then put pressure on it with the slide locked back. Also, I did have a steel rod in my Beretta for a limited time (original one was polymer, but found one since it was supposed to be the thing to do with Inox pistols). It was one piece. Not sure on Wolff's precision, either. Bedair is the guy I'd go to if I had a hard-on for a steel guide rod... very highly regarded. I have three of his (CX4, PX4, and the rod for my 92 compensator). |
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The plastic is actually an upgrade. Won't bend and lock up the gun if you drop it with the slide open. It's also self-lubricating and has channels molded in so it won't get clogged with sand. +1 Really? I've been worrying for nothing? 
I've never had a problem with either but supposedly it was the Army that requested them some time back for the reasons stated above. |
| If I didn't have a Harrts Mercury filled guide rod, I'd run the plastic guide rod. They're tough as nails. Always stay black. Resist binding in sand. Require no lubricant. It's a real pity that Harrts is no longer in business, their guide rods offered the advantages of a heavy guide rod without the penalty. I can't tell the difference in recoil between standard, +P and +P+ loads in my Elite II. |
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If you don't know what you are doing while breaking down the pistol, they make for great across the room projectiles. Ask me how I know.
The second time taking it apart my dad opens her up, and pop it goes shooting past my head. We couldn't find it and ended up replacing it with a stainless steal guide rod. Uh, you never launched a slide off the pistol frame have you? That's always fun, especially when it lands on the concrete floor.
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