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11/11/2007 10:16:57 AM EDT
And snapped off to boot!

Were can i get a replacement? A friend field stripped the g22 and reinstalled the slide over the rear rails. Took me 10 minutes to get it back apart, but now i need a new guide rod. If it hadn't snapped, the slide would still be stuck.
11/11/2007 10:20:49 AM EDT
[#1]
Lots of places, including glockmeister.com. Seven bucks.

www.ombexpress.com/category~cat~426501608.asp Three bucks.
11/11/2007 12:46:46 PM EDT
[#2]
I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.
11/11/2007 1:07:05 PM EDT
[#3]
midwayusa is where i get mine

stock em, but i havent had one break on me yet...
11/11/2007 1:20:42 PM EDT
[#4]

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I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.

In case you put it together wrong and break the rod getting it apart again?


I do several handgunning classes a year, and am a Glock armorer. Every time I've seen a Glock Shit the bed in a class, it's been "improved" often with an after market guide rod. I'd strongly recommend staying stock.
11/11/2007 1:31:04 PM EDT
[#5]

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I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.

In case you put it together wrong and break the rod getting it apart again?


I do several handgunning classes a year, and am a Glock armorer. Every time I've seen a Glock Shit the bed in a class, it's been "improved" often with an after market guide rod. I'd strongly recommend staying stock.


I agree. Don't futz around with your Glock, odds are you'll only screw it up.
11/11/2007 1:32:38 PM EDT
[#6]

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I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.

In case you put it together wrong and break the rod getting it apart again?


I do several handgunning classes a year, and am a Glock armorer. Every time I've seen a Glock Shit the bed in a class, it's been "improved" often with an after market guide rod. I'd strongly recommend staying stock.


+1 good advice.  The factory assembly has never let me down, 99% of the time it fails it is due to faulty handling/installation, although it is possible it could fail prematurely from other causes they are unlikely.

Get a new factory assembly or two and shoot the hell out of it.
11/11/2007 1:39:24 PM EDT
[#7]
I agree that 99 out of 100 guide rode breakages are due to improper installation.

Instead of spending 25+ for a SS guide rod, buy 4 and you'll be set for the rest of your natural life.

Actually in the OP's case, I think he can call Glock and they'll send him a new one.  
11/11/2007 2:00:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Be careful with the plastic guide rods,if you fire over 500rnds consecutively they can melt
11/11/2007 4:17:42 PM EDT
[#9]

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I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.

In case you put it together wrong and break the rod getting it apart again?


I do several handgunning classes a year, and am a Glock armorer. Every time I've seen a Glock Shit the bed in a class, it's been "improved" often with an after market guide rod. I'd strongly recommend staying stock.


Tell us about all the broken steel guide rods you've seen!!!!!
11/11/2007 4:40:34 PM EDT
[#10]

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I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.

In case you put it together wrong and break the rod getting it apart again?


I do several handgunning classes a year, and am a Glock armorer. Every time I've seen a Glock Shit the bed in a class, it's been "improved" often with an after market guide rod. I'd strongly recommend staying stock.


Tell us about all the broken steel guide rods you've seen!!!!!


Haven't seen a broken steel guide rod. For that matter, haven't seen a broken plastic one either, outside of improper reassembly. I'm not sure what problem people think they're correcting by replacing the stock guide rod.

What I have seen is Glocks binding up, failing to cycle properly creating both type I and type II malfunctions, etc. So far, replacing the after market parts with stock parts has resolved the problem.

Do you have any information regarding failure of the plastic guide rod outside of improper reassembly? I've simply stated my opinion based on my experience, and the experience of my instructors including my armorer instructor as related to me. I'm always open to new information if you have any to share.
11/12/2007 12:36:09 AM EDT
[#11]
IMO,if your going with a aftermarket steel guide go with a Wolff uncaptured set-up with a round wire spring.

11/12/2007 1:29:23 AM EDT
[#12]
I have experimented with steel guide rods, some of the recoil reducing rods among it, and found that steel guide rods and custom springs are a little bit more ammo sensitive than the stock assembly.

The stock assembly seems to digest a wider selection of different loads.
11/12/2007 5:03:29 AM EDT
[#13]

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I've been planning on upgrading my G17 to the stainless steel guide rod for just this reason.

In case you put it together wrong and break the rod getting it apart again?


I do several handgunning classes a year, and am a Glock armorer. Every time I've seen a Glock Shit the bed in a class, it's been "improved" often with an after market guide rod. I'd strongly recommend staying stock.


Tell us about all the broken steel guide rods you've seen!!!!!


Haven't seen a broken steel guide rod. For that matter, haven't seen a broken plastic one either, outside of improper reassembly. I'm not sure what problem people think they're correcting by replacing the stock guide rod.

What I have seen is Glocks binding up, failing to cycle properly creating both type I and type II malfunctions, etc. So far, replacing the after market parts with stock parts has resolved the problem.

Do you have any information regarding failure of the plastic guide rod outside of improper reassembly? I've simply stated my opinion based on my experience, and the experience of my instructors including my armorer instructor as related to me. I'm always open to new information if you have any to share.



A a matter of fact, yes, I have information about plastic guide rod failures not related to improper assembly, and, I'd have to opine, unless you saw the Glock assembled, you don't know if the guide rod failure was due to improper assembly or not.  There was a recall of G26/G27 guide rods due to failures.  I personally saw my G30's guide rod fail, shortly after I acquired the G30, and that failure had nothing to do with not properly seating the guide rod during assembly.  

I have never seen a Glock bind up, due to the use of steel guide rods, regardless of assembly prowess.  I use steel guide rods in all my Glocks and have fired tens of thousands of rounds through my Glocks with no failures.  I also use aftermarket connectors in all my Glocks and aftermarket barrels in some of my Glocks.  So far, no failures due to the use of the excellent aftermarket parts.  The aftermarket connectors that I use are far superior to Glock factory connectors.  
11/12/2007 5:24:25 AM EDT
[#14]

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A a matter of fact, yes, I have information about plastic guide rod failures not related to improper assembly, and, I'd have to opine, unless you saw the Glock assembled, you don't know if the guide rod failure was due to improper assembly or not.  There was a recall of G26/G27 guide rods due to failures.  I personally saw my G30's guide rod fail, shortly after I acquired the G30, and that failure had nothing to do with not properly seating the guide rod during assembly.  



The G26/27's were "re-spec'ed" because those guns were having problems when people put weaponlights on them IIRC. W/O weaponlights they ran fine, strap on a light, and trouble.....................

I'd like to see the PLASTIC guide rod that came out of a G30.
11/12/2007 5:52:54 AM EDT
[#15]

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A a matter of fact, yes, I have information about plastic guide rod failures not related to improper assembly, and, I'd have to opine, unless you saw the Glock assembled, you don't know if the guide rod failure was due to improper assembly or not.  There was a recall of G26/G27 guide rods due to failures.  I personally saw my G30's guide rod fail, shortly after I acquired the G30, and that failure had nothing to do with not properly seating the guide rod during assembly.  



The G26/27's were "re-spec'ed" because those guns were having problems when people put weaponlights on them IIRC. W/O weaponlights they ran fine, strap on a light, and trouble.....................

I'd like to see the PLASTIC guide rod that came out of a G30.


When did Glock start building G26/G27 pistols with the light rail?
11/12/2007 6:15:45 AM EDT
[#16]

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A a matter of fact, yes, I have information about plastic guide rod failures not related to improper assembly, and, I'd have to opine, unless you saw the Glock assembled, you don't know if the guide rod failure was due to improper assembly or not.  There was a recall of G26/G27 guide rods due to failures.  I personally saw my G30's guide rod fail, shortly after I acquired the G30, and that failure had nothing to do with not properly seating the guide rod during assembly.  



The G26/27's were "re-spec'ed" because those guns were having problems when people put weaponlights on them IIRC. W/O weaponlights they ran fine, strap on a light, and trouble.....................

I'd like to see the PLASTIC guide rod that came out of a G30.


You recall incorrectly, and apparently don't understand that there's no rail on G26/G27s.  What would be the point in my showing you the G30, since you don't seem to be aware that the factor G30 guide rod is plastic.  You really didn't learn much during that one-day armorer's class, did you?  
11/12/2007 7:05:37 AM EDT
[#17]

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Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

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A a matter of fact, yes, I have information about plastic guide rod failures not related to improper assembly, and, I'd have to opine, unless you saw the Glock assembled, you don't know if the guide rod failure was due to improper assembly or not.  There was a recall of G26/G27 guide rods due to failures.  I personally saw my G30's guide rod fail, shortly after I acquired the G30, and that failure had nothing to do with not properly seating the guide rod during assembly.  



The G26/27's were "re-spec'ed" because those guns were having problems when people put weaponlights on them IIRC. W/O weaponlights they ran fine, strap on a light, and trouble.....................

I'd like to see the PLASTIC guide rod that came out of a G30.


You recall incorrectly, and apparently don't understand that there's no rail on G26/G27s.  What would be the point in my showing you the G30, since you don't seem to be aware that the factor G30 guide rod is plastic.  You really didn't learn much during that one-day armorer's class, did you?  


Umm... I'm the guy who identified himself as a Glock armorer. That was Oly's post you were responding to.

You seem a tad sensitive on this whole subject. We're simply exchanging information and experiences here. Relax a bit.
11/12/2007 7:06:06 AM EDT
[#18]

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The G26/27's were "re-spec'ed" because those guns were having problems when people put weaponlights on them IIRC. W/O weaponlights they ran fine, strap on a light, and trouble.....................

I'd like to see the PLASTIC guide rod that came out of a G30.


You recall incorrectly, and apparently don't understand that there's no rail on G26/G27s.  What would be the point in my showing you the G30, since you don't seem to be aware that the factor G30 guide rod is plastic.  You really didn't learn much during that one-day armorer's class, did you?  


Yeah, that's why I typed IIRC.

Are you sure a G30 isn't a 2 piece rod, with 1 piece being something other than polymer?