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9/21/2013 7:02:43 PM EDT
My CCL Instructor  told me that if your handgun properly matched the size of your hand, your thumb is able to press the magazine release without any extra movement, meaning  not rotating the gun slightly in your hand.  If this is true, my HK USP 40 is too large for my hand..  

I'm wondering if this is true and how many here are able to release the mag without a slight turn of the gun in your hand?
9/21/2013 8:09:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Release the magazine with your firing hand middle finger. I know it feels more natural to release it with your thumb, given that's how just about every other gun other than walther is made, but with a paddle you want to use your middle finger on the other side.  It can be weird at first, but I have come to prefer it over the traditional mag release.  It feels very natural and easy once you get used to it.
9/22/2013 7:51:44 AM EDT
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My CCL Instructor  told me that if your handgun properly matched the size of your hand, your thumb is able to press the magazine release without any extra movement, meaning  not rotating the gun slightly in your hand.  If this is true, my HK USP 40 is too large for my hand..  

I'm wondering if this is true and how many here are able to release the mag without a slight turn of the gun in your hand?
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It's more true than not for a pistol with a traditional push button release style of mag release. With the HK, its the European style/paddle release style of mag release. I would take what another poster said and try to manipulate the release with your middle finger. If I carried that style of handgun/mag release that is probably how I would train for mag exchanges...

9/22/2013 9:54:56 AM EDT
[#3]
I actually reverse the push button to the left hand side and use my firing hand middle finger for pushbutton releases too. I learned to shoot on a paddle release and that way of releasing the mag was easier for me.
9/22/2013 12:33:52 PM EDT
[#4]
A 1911 with flat MSH and short trigger fit me fine. Not able to thumb the release with a firm grip though.
9/22/2013 11:02:38 PM EDT
[#5]
What is the logic there, that ejecting the magazine is of primary importance?? I'd go for "ability to manipulate the trigger directly to the rear" as a better judge of whether the grip size is right.

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My CCL Instructor  told me that if your handgun properly matched the size of your hand, your thumb is able to press the magazine release without any extra movement, meaning  not rotating the gun slightly in your hand.  If this is true, my HK USP 40 is too large for my hand..  

I'm wondering if this is true and how many here are able to release the mag without a slight turn of the gun in your hand?
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9/23/2013 4:29:21 AM EDT
[#6]
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Release the magazine with your firing hand middle finger. I know it feels more natural to release it with your thumb, given that's how just about every other gun other than walther is made, but with a paddle you want to use your middle finger on the other side.  It can be weird at first, but I have come to prefer it over the traditional mag release.  It feels very natural and easy once you get used to it.
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+1

I'm trying to transition to the HK P30S 9mm.

My current primary is a 98 Sig P229 in 40cal & M642 for bug.

I was thinking since they are both DA/SA it would be simple.

For now I'm just dry firing until I can come up with some more ammo to make a trip to the range worth while.
It does take time to get use to using the fu finger.

9/23/2013 7:11:35 AM EDT
[#7]
The mag release doesn't enter into it, IMO.   The gun is correctly sized when you can position the backstrap squarely in the middle of the web between your thumb and index finger and still get the pad of your trigger finger at least perpendicular to the trigger.

I like to be able to reach the mag release without shifting the gun, but it isn't a dealbreaker.  If nothing else, the support thumb can usually hit the button without undue gyrations.

I really like the paddle release on the USP or other designs that can quickly be activated by the trigger finger, but like most non-standard designs, it takes shooting the gun a while before it becomes second nature.
9/23/2013 8:13:32 AM EDT
[#8]
Working the mag release is about proper training. Fit of the gun is far more important, and being able to reach the mag release doesn't actually mean the gun fits or "feels" right.
9/23/2013 9:19:56 AM EDT
[#9]
What the above posters said about manipulating the paddle release with you middle finger. Most of my pistols have the paddle release, if the middle finger is awkward for you try using your trigger finger. That is the method I prefer as that finger is already moving to manipulate the trigger, I don't know why it just feels better for me this way.
9/23/2013 3:27:32 PM EDT
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My CCL Instructor  told me that if your handgun properly matched the size of your hand, your thumb is able to press the magazine release without any extra movement, meaning  not rotating the gun slightly in your hand.  If this is true, my HK USP 40 is too large for my hand..  



I'm wondering if this is true and how many here are able to release the mag without a slight turn of the gun in your hand?
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Now, think about this: if you don't have to move to operate your mag release, how easy will it be to drop that mag in a panic situation???  There's easy to operate and then there's "TOO easy to operate".



 
9/25/2013 9:07:32 AM EDT
[#11]
I totally disagree with your instructor. Being able to reach the mag release without altering your firing grip has absolutely nothing to do with proper gun-to-hand fit.

I don't agree that there is necessarily a proper "fit". The most important consideration when choosing a handgun is comfort, IMO. I have huge hands. If I followed some of the proper "fit" theories, I'd have to resort to carrying a .500 S&W or .50 AE Desert Eagle. But comfort wise, I actually prefer smaller handguns.

I can't stand the feel of a Glock 20 or 21, but put a Glock 17 in my hands and it just feels perfect. I shoot them very naturally but I have to make more of a conscious effort to shoot a G20 or 21 with the same level of accuracy. Another example is with revolvers. Proper "fit" wise, a S&W N-Frame "fits" me perfectly. But put a K-Frame in my hands and it's all natural and almost effortless to shoot quickly and accurately.

The only way you will find a handgun that really works for you is trying everything you can get your hands on. Forget about all the measurements and go with what feels right to you. I'm sure you can find plenty of pistols which will fit you properly according to your instructor's guidelines but will actually feel like crap in your hands.