Posted: 8/14/2015 1:26:07 AM EDT
| RMR just came in today, all im waiting for is the mounting screws to come in and im all set. What kind of distance are you guys zeroing to for an pistol RMR? Gun will be used for defensive purposes and training courses, and just fun shoots so nothing really long distance. |
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We recommend 10 yard zeros for pistols. 10 yard zero maintains a ~2" combat effective hit zone from 1 yard all the way to 75 yards.
25 yards is not ideal for a pistol zero... the majority of pistol shooters do not shoot from 25+ yards which makes a 25 yard zero not make much sense for a pistol. |
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Most pistols are not actually zeroed ( test fired for windage and elevation) at the factory but yes generally 25 yards is the old school ( when people actually wanted to hit accurately at distance, not just spray and pray at seven yards like a lot of shooters do today) standard.
I see the point of the ten yard zero too. I do shoot a lot of matches with long range targets sometimes out to fifty yards so the 25 yard works for me |
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Most pistols are not actually zeroed ( test fired for windage and elevation) at the factory but yes generally 25 yards is the old school ( when people actually wanted to hit accurately at distance, not just spray and pray at seven yards like a lot of shooters do today) standard. I see the point of the ten yard zero too. I do shoot a lot of matches with long range targets sometimes out to fifty yards so the 25 yard works for me A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? |
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Quoted: A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? Quoted: Quoted: Most pistols are not actually zeroed ( test fired for windage and elevation) at the factory but yes generally 25 yards is the old school ( when people actually wanted to hit accurately at distance, not just spray and pray at seven yards like a lot of shooters do today) standard. I see the point of the ten yard zero too. I do shoot a lot of matches with long range targets sometimes out to fifty yards so the 25 yard works for me A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? you can have a 25yd zero and shoot at 10yds for a tight group. your group should just be -0.2" low at 10 yds (assuming 124gr HST) |
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A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? Quoted:
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Most pistols are not actually zeroed ( test fired for windage and elevation) at the factory but yes generally 25 yards is the old school ( when people actually wanted to hit accurately at distance, not just spray and pray at seven yards like a lot of shooters do today) standard. I see the point of the ten yard zero too. I do shoot a lot of matches with long range targets sometimes out to fifty yards so the 25 yard works for me A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? Thanks for the suggestions everyone and the chart PM, that helps a lot. Seems like I would be ok zeroing somewhere around 10yds since this pistol will be used for defense and mostly 25yds or less. |
| I zero all my RMR's to 25yds and don't use a holdover from 0-50 yards. I'm sure if a benched the gun I would see some deviation in poa/poi at various yardage but off hand in my experience it's negligible. I just follow what various SME's have recomeded. YMMV. I've found with a 25yard zero I can shoot 0-100yrds and make my hits. Works for me. |
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A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? Quoted:
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Most pistols are not actually zeroed ( test fired for windage and elevation) at the factory but yes generally 25 yards is the old school ( when people actually wanted to hit accurately at distance, not just spray and pray at seven yards like a lot of shooters do today) standard. I see the point of the ten yard zero too. I do shoot a lot of matches with long range targets sometimes out to fifty yards so the 25 yard works for me A fifty yard shot is still basically dead on with a 10 yard zero. Range drop for 9mm 115GR: Range Drop (yd) (in) 0 -0.7 5 -0.3 10 0.0 15 0.3 20 0.4 25 0.6 30 0.6 35 0.6 40 0.5 45 0.4 50 0.1 55 -0.2 60 -0.5 65 -1.0 70 -1.5 75 -2.1 80 -2.8 85 -3.6 90 -4.4 95 -5.3 100 -6.3 Why zero at a distance like 25 yards where it's going to be harder to ensure a good, tight zero even shooting off a bench when you can put one bullet in the same hole at 10 yards and ensure your zero is definitely 100% dead on? Listen to this man...he speaks truth...10 yard RMR zero FTW... |