Posted: 5/4/2015 4:52:40 PM EDT
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19).
So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? |
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? My understanding is that going below 14-5lbs on your recoil spring will give you problems without going down .5-1lb on the striker spring with the gun going into battery. That said, I JUST ordered some WOLFF 4.5 and 5lb striker springs. I've been reading that many people are getting 99-100% reliability on the 4.5lb striker springs using OEM striker, and 100% reliability with the 5lb striker spring and OEM striker. Also I will be running the 15lb recoil spring on this setup. |
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My understanding is that going below 14-5lbs on your recoil spring will give you problems without going down .5-1lb on the striker spring with the gun going into battery. That said, I JUST ordered some WOLFF 4.5 and 5lb striker springs. I've been reading that many people are getting 99-100% reliability on the 4.5lb striker springs using OEM striker, and 100% reliability with the 5lb striker spring and OEM striker. Also I will be running the 15lb recoil spring on this setup. Quoted:
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? My understanding is that going below 14-5lbs on your recoil spring will give you problems without going down .5-1lb on the striker spring with the gun going into battery. That said, I JUST ordered some WOLFF 4.5 and 5lb striker springs. I've been reading that many people are getting 99-100% reliability on the 4.5lb striker springs using OEM striker, and 100% reliability with the 5lb striker spring and OEM striker. Also I will be running the 15lb recoil spring on this setup. You are correct in the way the Glock operates once you drop below a certain weight the striker spring can keep the pistol from returning to battery 15# is the lowest you can go I believe before you start experiencing issues that require a drop in weight on the striker spring. Could you tell much difference between stock and 15? |
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You are correct in the way the Glock operates once you drop below a certain weight the striker spring can keep the pistol from returning to battery 15# is the lowest you can go I believe before you start experiencing issues that require a drop in weight on the striker spring. Could you tell much difference between stock and 15? Quoted:
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? My understanding is that going below 14-5lbs on your recoil spring will give you problems without going down .5-1lb on the striker spring with the gun going into battery. That said, I JUST ordered some WOLFF 4.5 and 5lb striker springs. I've been reading that many people are getting 99-100% reliability on the 4.5lb striker springs using OEM striker, and 100% reliability with the 5lb striker spring and OEM striker. Also I will be running the 15lb recoil spring on this setup. You are correct in the way the Glock operates once you drop below a certain weight the striker spring can keep the pistol from returning to battery 15# is the lowest you can go I believe before you start experiencing issues that require a drop in weight on the striker spring. Could you tell much difference between stock and 15? Have not ran the gun with it yet. Still waiting on barrel. 15# is just what I plan to run in it assuming I don't have to go lighter due to the slide being lightened so much. |
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I shoot with some guys who shoot Limited Minor with G34s using 13 lb springs and 147 grain bullets. It should work fine with a 13 lb spring. Frank Proctor uses 13 lb springs in all of his 9mm Glocks. Last time I tried a 13# I had issues with the striker spring not letting the slide go back into battery 100% of the time and I ran a full powered striker spring at that time. |
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15lb with a stock striker spring. 13 with a reduced power. Could even do an 11lb with a 4lb striker spring. I know bob vogel uses an 11lb recoil spring on his 34 and he is the God of glock shooters. Yeah, under 15lbs you will have to go down on the striker spring. With a lightened striker 4-4.5lbs should be 100% reliable on any primer. Not to mention make for a phenomenal trigger. Every lb you take off the striker spring takes about 12 ounces out the pull weight. |
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Last time I tried a 13# I had issues with the striker spring not letting the slide go back into battery 100% of the time and I ran a full powered striker spring at that time. Quoted:
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I shoot with some guys who shoot Limited Minor with G34s using 13 lb springs and 147 grain bullets. It should work fine with a 13 lb spring. Frank Proctor uses 13 lb springs in all of his 9mm Glocks. Last time I tried a 13# I had issues with the striker spring not letting the slide go back into battery 100% of the time and I ran a full powered striker spring at that time. I guess I have never had that happen because the only gun I have with a lighter recoil spring also has a lighter striker spring. 
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My teammate and I both did a good bit of experimenting with springs over the last year and finished on the following:
Note we both use skeletonized strikers (mine is a zev, his is the one that came with the DK custom kit) to ensure reliability as striker spring weight decreased. Me: 13# ISMI spring on Jaeger captured rod, Zev 2# striker spring. 135gr black bullets running at just over minor PF. Several thousand rounds later i've had no problems lighting CCI primers. Teammate: 10# ISMI spring, 2# striker spring worked, but after a while he got an increased likelihood light primer strikes with remington primers. This could have to do with degradation of the striker spring, or that the remington primers were a little less sensitive. He shot a couple thousand rounds more than me during this time, and stayed on his glock long after i switched away from them. He swapped for the 3# striker and this would pull the gun out of battery on the 10# recoil. He bumped the recoil spring to something in the 11-12.5 range...can't remember which, and settled on that. |
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I shoot with some guys who shoot Limited Minor with G34s using 13 lb springs and 147 grain bullets. It should work fine with a 13 lb spring. Frank Proctor uses 13 lb springs in all of his 9mm Glocks. Last time I tried a 13# I had issues with the striker spring not letting the slide go back into battery 100% of the time and I ran a full powered striker spring at that time. I guess I have never had that happen because the only gun I have with a lighter recoil spring also has a lighter striker spring. What striker and striker spring weight are you running? I just bought the Zev lightened striker and some WOLFF 4.5lb striker springs. From all I've read, that combo should have 100% reliability with any primers. |
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My teammate and I both did a good bit of experimenting with springs over the last year and finished on the following: Note we both use skeletonized strikers (mine is a zev, his is the one that came with the DK custom kit) to ensure reliability as striker spring weight decreased. Me: 13# ISMI spring on Jaeger captured rod, Zev 2# striker spring. 135gr black bullets running at just over minor PF. Several thousand rounds later i've had no problems lighting CCI primers. Teammate: 10# ISMI spring, 2# striker spring worked, but after a while he got an increased likelihood light primer strikes with remington primers. This could have to do with degradation of the striker spring, or that the remington primers were a little less sensitive. He shot a couple thousand rounds more than me during this time, and stayed on his glock long after i switched away from them. He swapped for the 3# striker and this would pull the gun out of battery on the 10# recoil. He bumped the recoil spring to something in the 11-12.5 range...can't remember which, and settled on that. One thing I've been reading is that most guys running lighter striker springs replace them pretty often as they don't seem to last nearly as long as the OEM spring does. I bought the WOLFF pack of 3 and plan to just change them every coupe thousand rounds. They're cheap and it's quick to replace so why not. |
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What striker and striker spring weight are you running? I just bought the Zev lightened striker and some WOLFF 4.5lb striker springs. From all I've read, that combo should have 100% reliability with any primers. Quoted:
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I shoot with some guys who shoot Limited Minor with G34s using 13 lb springs and 147 grain bullets. It should work fine with a 13 lb spring. Frank Proctor uses 13 lb springs in all of his 9mm Glocks. Last time I tried a 13# I had issues with the striker spring not letting the slide go back into battery 100% of the time and I ran a full powered striker spring at that time. I guess I have never had that happen because the only gun I have with a lighter recoil spring also has a lighter striker spring. What striker and striker spring weight are you running? I just bought the Zev lightened striker and some WOLFF 4.5lb striker springs. From all I've read, that combo should have 100% reliability with any primers. Previously it was a factory striker and Zev spring, but this weekend in put a Fulcrum Ultimate kit in which uses a Zev striker. I have the 2 lb spring in it now, but I haven't tested it yet. I only use it for competition, so as long as it eats my reloads I'm happy. |
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Previously it was a factory striker and Zev spring, but this weekend in put a Fulcrum Ultimate kit in which uses a Zev striker. I have the 2 lb spring in it now, but I haven't tested it yet. I only use it for competition, so as long as it eats my reloads I'm happy. Quoted:
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I shoot with some guys who shoot Limited Minor with G34s using 13 lb springs and 147 grain bullets. It should work fine with a 13 lb spring. Frank Proctor uses 13 lb springs in all of his 9mm Glocks. Last time I tried a 13# I had issues with the striker spring not letting the slide go back into battery 100% of the time and I ran a full powered striker spring at that time. I guess I have never had that happen because the only gun I have with a lighter recoil spring also has a lighter striker spring. What striker and striker spring weight are you running? I just bought the Zev lightened striker and some WOLFF 4.5lb striker springs. From all I've read, that combo should have 100% reliability with any primers. Previously it was a factory striker and Zev spring, but this weekend in put a Fulcrum Ultimate kit in which uses a Zev striker. I have the 2 lb spring in it now, but I haven't tested it yet. I only use it for competition, so as long as it eats my reloads I'm happy. This is great information as I am getting back into playing with spring weights on my 34 as I plan to do a lot of mods to it. Eventually I am going to have the slide lightened and who knows what else I will dream up for it. |
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My teammate and I both did a good bit of experimenting with springs over the last year and finished on the following: Note we both use skeletonized strikers (mine is a zev, his is the one that came with the DK custom kit) to ensure reliability as striker spring weight decreased. Me: 13# ISMI spring on Jaeger captured rod, Zev 2# striker spring. 135gr black bullets running at just over minor PF. Several thousand rounds later i've had no problems lighting CCI primers. Teammate: 10# ISMI spring, 2# striker spring worked, but after a while he got an increased likelihood light primer strikes with remington primers. This could have to do with degradation of the striker spring, or that the remington primers were a little less sensitive. He shot a couple thousand rounds more than me during this time, and stayed on his glock long after i switched away from them. He swapped for the 3# striker and this would pull the gun out of battery on the 10# recoil. He bumped the recoil spring to something in the 11-12.5 range...can't remember which, and settled on that. Interesting read thanks. Did the lighter recoil spring make a significant difference in the feel? |
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I'm testing a 5lb striker spring with a 15lb recoil spring on my 34 now. My trigger is about 4-4.5lbs on my wheeler guage. May want to get it lighter which will mean a lightened striker with a 4-4.5lb spring and I'll go to a 13lb recoil spring in that case. I'm doing a Zev Tech lightened striker with 4.5 lb striker spring and 15 lb recoil spring. My barrel won't be in to put the gun back together but with other mods I have done already I'm expecting about a 3.5 lb trigger. Each lb off the striker spring weight is about 12 oz off the trigger pull. |
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I have a 13lb ISMI spring and whatever weight of striker spring that comes with the TTI Grandmaster trigger kit (which I understand is heavier than most trigger kits). I've had it in there for about a year and 10,000+ rounds. ETA: G34 gen 4 I believe the TTI kit comes with a 4.25 lb striker spring. Are you using that with a stock striker? If so that is very impressive to have 10k rounds with no issues with that light of a spring and stock striker. Below 5lbs it's usually recommended to use a lightened striker for good primer ignition reliability. |
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I put about 300 rounds through my 35 this week with a 13 lb recoil spring and ZEV Fulcrum Ultimate Kit (lightened striker, 2 lb spring). No issues so far. What kind of loads are you guys shooting with such light recoil springs? I keep reading that with standard target loads the slide will want to start cycling too soon with such a light recoil spring. |
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? The spring on the slide release will wear out too. The new recoil spring may just be masking the issue. |
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The spring on the slide release will wear out too. The new recoil spring may just be masking the issue. Quoted:
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? The spring on the slide release will wear out too. The new recoil spring may just be masking the issue. The recoil spring did fix the issues I was having. The pistol felt nearly the same with the 15 vs the 17 spring. I do have to say the 15 felt like it stayed slightly flatter during recoil but could of been me believing because I knew a change happened but I had the 15# in most the time. |
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The recoil spring did fix the issues I was having. The pistol felt nearly the same with the 15 vs the 17 spring. I do have to say the 15 felt like it stayed slightly flatter during recoil but could of been me believing because I knew a change happened but I had the 15# in most the time. Quoted:
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? The spring on the slide release will wear out too. The new recoil spring may just be masking the issue. The recoil spring did fix the issues I was having. The pistol felt nearly the same with the 15 vs the 17 spring. I do have to say the 15 felt like it stayed slightly flatter during recoil but could of been me believing because I knew a change happened but I had the 15# in most the time. I don't plan on going any lighter than a 15lb spring as I'm not shooting hand loads. |
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I don't plan on going any lighter than a 15lb spring as I'm not shooting hand loads. Quoted:
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? The spring on the slide release will wear out too. The new recoil spring may just be masking the issue. The recoil spring did fix the issues I was having. The pistol felt nearly the same with the 15 vs the 17 spring. I do have to say the 15 felt like it stayed slightly flatter during recoil but could of been me believing because I knew a change happened but I had the 15# in most the time. I don't plan on going any lighter than a 15lb spring as I'm not shooting hand loads. Glock 17.4 Jager Gen 4 captured steel guide rod 15 lb ISMI 147 grain The front sight doesn't lift up as high or as quickly during recoil and is very easy to track. I know there isn't much difference between a 17 lb spring and a 15 lb spring but the reduced weight coupled with the 147 grain ammo feels much different. I only shoot standard pressure ammo so I felt dropping 2 lbs off would have no downsides at all. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Glock 17.4 Jager Gen 4 captured steel guide rod 15 lb ISMI 147 grain The front sight doesn't lift up as high or as quickly during recoil and is very easy to track. I know there isn't much difference between a 17 lb spring and a 15 lb spring but the reduced weight coupled with the 147 grain ammo feels much different. I only shoot standard pressure ammo so I felt dropping 2 lbs off would have no downsides at all. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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This is for those running different weight recoil springs. My G34 the spring has reach the end of life. Currently I am running stock weight 17# with a SS rod and having issues with the slide locking back on half filled mags (already tested with a stock spring and it corrected the issue and this spring probably has well over the normal usage not the mags either does it randomly on all my mags but the mags do not effect my 17 or 19). So for those running different weights what weights are you running and what kind of load are you running? Those who are going to come in and say run stock please do not bother posting this is a range comp gun that I am tweaking and I am not carrying or using it for SHTF. I already ordered a 15# and 17# who has run lower weight spring than 15# and did you change the striker spring? The spring on the slide release will wear out too. The new recoil spring may just be masking the issue. The recoil spring did fix the issues I was having. The pistol felt nearly the same with the 15 vs the 17 spring. I do have to say the 15 felt like it stayed slightly flatter during recoil but could of been me believing because I knew a change happened but I had the 15# in most the time. I don't plan on going any lighter than a 15lb spring as I'm not shooting hand loads. Glock 17.4 Jager Gen 4 captured steel guide rod 15 lb ISMI 147 grain The front sight doesn't lift up as high or as quickly during recoil and is very easy to track. I know there isn't much difference between a 17 lb spring and a 15 lb spring but the reduced weight coupled with the 147 grain ammo feels much different. I only shoot standard pressure ammo so I felt dropping 2 lbs off would have no downsides at all. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Awesome, I'm glad to hear you like that setup. |
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What kind of loads are you guys shooting with such light recoil springs? I keep reading that with standard target loads the slide will want to start cycling too soon with such a light recoil spring. Quoted:
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I put about 300 rounds through my 35 this week with a 13 lb recoil spring and ZEV Fulcrum Ultimate Kit (lightened striker, 2 lb spring). No issues so far. What kind of loads are you guys shooting with such light recoil springs? I keep reading that with standard target loads the slide will want to start cycling too soon with such a light recoil spring. 200 grain Blue Bullets @ 850 fps. |
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I believe the TTI kit comes with a 4.25 lb striker spring. Are you using that with a stock striker? If so that is very impressive to have 10k rounds with no issues with that light of a spring and stock striker. Below 5lbs it's usually recommended to use a lightened striker for good primer ignition reliability. Quoted:
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I have a 13lb ISMI spring and whatever weight of striker spring that comes with the TTI Grandmaster trigger kit (which I understand is heavier than most trigger kits). I've had it in there for about a year and 10,000+ rounds. ETA: G34 gen 4 I believe the TTI kit comes with a 4.25 lb striker spring. Are you using that with a stock striker? If so that is very impressive to have 10k rounds with no issues with that light of a spring and stock striker. Below 5lbs it's usually recommended to use a lightened striker for good primer ignition reliability. Yes, stock striker. I had a few Tula primers not pop but they are reserved for practice ammo only, the Federal and CCI primer loads have all been 100%. |
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What kind of loads are you guys shooting with such light recoil springs? I keep reading that with standard target loads the slide will want to start cycling too soon with such a light recoil spring. Quoted:
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I put about 300 rounds through my 35 this week with a 13 lb recoil spring and ZEV Fulcrum Ultimate Kit (lightened striker, 2 lb spring). No issues so far. What kind of loads are you guys shooting with such light recoil springs? I keep reading that with standard target loads the slide will want to start cycling too soon with such a light recoil spring. 147gr bullet around 925fps. |
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Yes, stock striker. I had a few Tula primers not pop but they are reserved for practice ammo only, the Federal and CCI primer loads have all been 100%. Quoted:
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I have a 13lb ISMI spring and whatever weight of striker spring that comes with the TTI Grandmaster trigger kit (which I understand is heavier than most trigger kits). I've had it in there for about a year and 10,000+ rounds. ETA: G34 gen 4 I believe the TTI kit comes with a 4.25 lb striker spring. Are you using that with a stock striker? If so that is very impressive to have 10k rounds with no issues with that light of a spring and stock striker. Below 5lbs it's usually recommended to use a lightened striker for good primer ignition reliability. Yes, stock striker. I had a few Tula primers not pop but they are reserved for practice ammo only, the Federal and CCI primer loads have all been 100%. Damn that's very impressive. |