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10/13/2025 3:09:59 PM EDT
...is awesome

Picked one up today from my local sporting goods store.  Got the gun and 250rds of Aguila for $275 OTD.  Went immediately to my range and shot all 250rds without one hiccup.  Gun is loaded with features and has a lifetime warranty.  The one I got is OD Green frame with black slide but there are several variations on the market.  My store only had this one.  It is optics ready and direct mounts an RMR or an RMSC without a plate, but, a plate is included with tons of ways to mount other footprint optics.  OEM sights are a green fiber optic front and a serrated square notch black rear.  Gun was super accurate from 7yds, 10yds, 15yds, and 25yds.  

I have an RMR footprint optic I will be installing as well as my GSL Woodland silencer.  Gun is threaded 1/2x28 so no adapter is needed.  Comes with 2-13rd mags, a lock, and a bore brush.  Box is nice and warranty info and a owners manual are inside.  Grip frame feel is that of an XD Mod2/3 or a Taurus TH9C.  Gun is size-wise comparable to a P229.  It feels like a real deal gun with the heavy cast mags.  Mags have assist buttons and are super easy to load.  You will lose the rear sight when you mount the optic as it is integrated to the cover plate.  Not a big deal.  SLide is forged aluminum, not some pot-metal zinc crap.  Double action is a joke it is so heavy but just run it cocked and locked.  There is no de-cocker,  so you have to manually lower the hammer.  The trigger shape is nice and the trigger is easy to stage.  Gun is soft shooting (22lr) and simple to keep on target.  

10/16/2025 9:11:23 PM EDT
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Who makes this?  Country?
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10/17/2025 9:43:17 PM EDT
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Made in Tukiye

Retay USA imports it from Retay Turkey
10/18/2025 8:50:30 AM EDT
[#3]
Might be worth a try, for short money.
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10/18/2025 12:11:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RUT:
Might be worth a try, for short money.
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Competition is good.
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10/18/2025 10:02:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the review. I have been looking at these to add to the 22lr collection. Might grab one soon.
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10/18/2025 11:20:05 PM EDT
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Shot it today with dot and silencer.  Still awesome.  What isn't awesome is that the RMR screws required are M3.5x0.6x12mm. Nobody local carries M3.5 screws.  Ordered a 50pk off Amazon for $6 shipped.  Oh well.
10/19/2025 7:50:37 AM EDT
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I put my order in yesterday. Worth a try for not a whole lot of money.
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10/19/2025 1:18:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Hope they do a full size with 18/20rd mag.
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10/20/2025 8:05:02 PM EDT
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18rd mags have a SKU already
10/21/2025 10:05:14 AM EDT
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This is interesting. I like that it used metal magazines. I second the desire for a full-size version with 20 round mags (18 may be close enough).

I need to replace my P322 whose magazines I believe I have worn out.
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10/24/2025 9:52:15 AM EDT
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18rd mags have a SKU already
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Nice.  Wonder if it's for a full size or the compact with extension.
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10/25/2025 9:41:48 AM EDT
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Got mine in the other day and mounted an optic. It's really designed to accept only an RMR pattern directly to the slide itself. Others will require the use of the enclosed mounting plate. Unfortunately, they provide absolutely no info. as to screw sizes needed, but someone said it needed an M3.5x.06x12mm. I have some of these in 11mm length but they bottomed out when I tried to mount an Osight SE, so it would require something slightly shorter by the looks. (at least for my particular optic) At any rate, the gun looks good for the money, but I have yet to shoot it. We shall see.....

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10/25/2025 6:38:00 PM EDT
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M3.5 is correct

The Retay website under specs shows the screw size.   Also, an RMSc can be direct mounted but will not be "dovetailed" like the RMR is.
11/3/2025 1:51:51 PM EDT
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I ran mine suppressed yesterday for the first time and it ran like a champ. It didn't really care for mini mags with the can on but performed admirably with lesser velocity ammo.
Liberals don't care what you do... as long as it's MANDATORY!
12/2/2025 10:12:35 AM EDT
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My local FFL had one of these pistols in the case a while back.

The double action trigger pull literally required two fingers in order to pull it. First time I've ever experienced that in over 20 years and handling thousands of guns.

Otherwise, it seemed like a neat little 22.
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12/4/2025 2:33:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pctech:
My local FFL had one of these pistols in the case a while back.

The double action trigger pull literally required two fingers in order to pull it. First time I've ever experienced that in over 20 years and handling thousands of guns.

Otherwise, it seemed like a neat little 22.
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There is zero reason to use double action on this .22lr.  But mine is no where near that difficult.  Perhaps the safety was on and you managed to break it?
12/4/2025 5:03:26 PM EDT
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>>There is zero reason to use double action on this .22lr<<

I agree..it's a non issue. It's a range plinker and not a SD weapon.
Liberals don't care what you do... as long as it's MANDATORY!
12/10/2025 7:17:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EncoreGolf:

There is zero reason to use double action on this .22lr.  But mine is no where near that difficult.  Perhaps the safety was on and you managed to break it?
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Originally Posted By EncoreGolf:
Originally Posted By pctech:
My local FFL had one of these pistols in the case a while back.

The double action trigger pull literally required two fingers in order to pull it. First time I've ever experienced that in over 20 years and handling thousands of guns.

Otherwise, it seemed like a neat little 22.

There is zero reason to use double action on this .22lr.  But mine is no where near that difficult.  Perhaps the safety was on and you managed to break it?


No, it wasn't related to the safety. It was a repeatable condition.

My ffl dealer actually handed me the gun and said "feel this", as it was the heaviest double action pull he had ever felt too.

As you say though, it's a gun that really has no need for a double action pull. He sold it several days later to a guy who only wanted it to shoot in single action.
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