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11/28/2010 10:51:29 AM EDT
I did a search, found some info. but not exactly what I want.

Can the owners chime in about them?
I want a smaller pocket carry gun. I got to handle one but was not able to shoot it. It felt good in my hand.
What Im looking for is accuracy results.
Owners wanna chime in with other info. on them?

Thanks for the help!
11/28/2010 11:05:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I did a search, found some info. but not exactly what I want.

Can the owners chime in about them?
I want a smaller pocket carry gun. I got to handle one but was not able to shoot it. It felt good in my hand.
What Im looking for is accuracy results.
Owners wanna chime in with other info. on them?

Thanks for the help!


Yes I do own one one. First thing you need to know about the lcp is it is not a range toy the sights blow, it is not a point and aim gun. It is more of a point and pull trigger until you are out of ammo.  At 7 yards doing this I can hit the chest area of a target with out aiming. It is a great pocket gun but it isn't a fighting gun your best best should you need to use it is get as many rounds fired as you can don't worry about properly aiming it
11/28/2010 11:17:13 AM EDT
[#2]
Great little gun for pocket carry. But it's definately a backup not a target gun.
11/28/2010 11:17:31 AM EDT
[#3]
The LCP is not a target gun, it is more of an instinct point and shoot type weapon.

At 7 -10 yards I can dump a mag into a pie plate thats all I need for a last ditch gun.
11/28/2010 11:18:51 AM EDT
[#4]
What he said.....

And the trigger pull is long as hell. I remind myself of that every time I put it in my pocket.

All in all I'd say it's a great little shooter for its intended purpose. It's one of the last guns I'd choose for a gunfight, but it sure beats the hell out of bringing a knife to a knife fight.
11/28/2010 11:56:43 AM EDT
[#5]
double tap
11/28/2010 12:07:01 PM EDT
[#6]
My LCP is real accurate, about 1" or so at 7 yds.  but that's off of a sandbag rest under perfect lighting conditions. I put a Crimson Trace Laser site on it and now I just put the red dot on a target and pull the trigger smoothly untill it fires. I like the long smooth trigger pull, it's like a revolver, no safety needed.

My Kel-Tec PF-9 is the same way and I like both of them but neither of them are range guns.

10mm, when you care enough to send the very best.
11/28/2010 4:21:53 PM EDT
[#7]
I love my LCP. Has worked flawlessly and is a very easy pocket cary gun. I echo what those above say, the sights aren't really worth poop in a situation when you'd need them, but it is a decent point shooter with the pinky extension on the mag.
11/28/2010 4:36:50 PM EDT
[#8]
I have shot the LCP and some of the other pocket guns . They seem to make lots of folks happy but they don't do much for me.

I own the old time Colt Mustang which has a much better trigger and the grip and sights work a bit better for me. Of course the mustangs are few and far apart and the modern replacement (the sig) is twice the price of the LCR and the trigger is not great.

My suggestion for a pocket gun is one of the J-frame airweights. I have a much higher confidence level in the guns reliability, the power of the round and my ability to crank out a handful of fairly accurate shots. It works well for me seven days of the week .  S&W is running a $50 rebate on J-frames until the end of Dec
11/28/2010 5:40:15 PM EDT
[#9]
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I have shot the LCP and some of the other pocket guns . They seem to make lots of folks happy but they don't do much for me.

I own the old time Colt Mustang which has a much better trigger and the grip and sights work a bit better for me. Of course the mustangs are few and far apart and the modern replacement (the sig) is twice the price of the LCR and the trigger is not great.

My suggestion for a pocket gun is one of the J-frame airweights. I have a much higher confidence level in the guns reliability, the power of the round and my ability to crank out a handful of fairly accurate shots. It works well for me seven days of the week .  S&W is running a $50 rebate on J-frames until the end of Dec


Of course a big handled J frame is going to be easier to shoot than a little LCP. But the point is, the damn thing is smaller than my cell phone. If you're wearing a bikini, you can still carry...
11/28/2010 6:11:31 PM EDT
[#10]
I just picked one up today but haven't shot it yet. I'll post a range report in a couple of days.
11/28/2010 6:40:36 PM EDT
[#11]
I've put a couple hundred rounds through mine since picking it up about a month ago. I think the pros outweigh the cons. It's real easy to put it just about anywhere on your body, pocket, IWB, shoulder rig, belly band, etc... That means it is convenient and will make it into your routine more readily. The power of .380 can be debated until the end of the internet and back a hundred times, so that is that. The recoil sucks, it isn't fun to shoot, but it's not that powerful to hurt. The trigger pull SUCKS and does not reset short like a Glock. You have to let the trigger travel the half mile back until reset. I don't mind the long pull, I just wish it had a shorter reset.



Accuracy is better than I thought it would be, I'm real decent and comfortable at 7 yards, good groups with plenty in the 10 ring.



For the price, you really can't go wrong. It's a great anytime gun. The only thing I'm looking to pick up in this class would be the new Sig 9mm, I don't think it's out yet.
11/28/2010 7:28:48 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I've put a couple hundred rounds through mine since picking it up about a month ago. I think the pros outweigh the cons. It's real easy to put it just about anywhere on your body, pocket, IWB, shoulder rig, belly band, etc... That means it is convenient and will make it into your routine more readily. The power of .380 can be debated until the end of the internet and back a hundred times, so that is that. The recoil sucks, it isn't fun to shoot, but it's not that powerful to hurt. The trigger pull SUCKS and does not reset short like a Glock. You have to let the trigger travel the half mile back until reset. I don't mind the long pull, I just wish it had a shorter reset.

Accuracy is better than I thought it would be, I'm real decent and comfortable at 7 yards, good groups with plenty in the 10 ring.

For the price, you really can't go wrong. It's a great anytime gun. The only thing I'm looking to pick up in this class would be the new Sig 9mm, I don't think it's out yet.


Just checked out the sig.....that may be a better option.
11/28/2010 7:46:48 PM EDT
[#13]
I put 6 rounds in a raccoon from 5-7 yards away, raccoon covered in blood, ran several hundred yards never to be seen again.
Yes, I hit and apparently every where but where it needed to be hit. Ammo- Hornady Critical Defense.
From my personal experience I will not carry a .380 as a primary ccw. In fact I won't own one. Your millage may vary.




 
11/29/2010 2:19:11 AM EDT
[#14]
I bought one for carry, it's not fun to shoot IMO.

Mine only sees carry as a BUG or when I can't carry something better.

11/29/2010 5:25:00 AM EDT
[#15]
I often see people at the range trying to accurately shoot their LCPs.

I'm not saying that it can't be done; only that I've never, ever,  seen it done in person and I'm at the range once or twice every week.

IMO; it's a "stick it in their ribs, squeeze repeatedly, and pray" kind of weapon; and not at all suitable for primary carry.
11/29/2010 5:33:40 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


What he said.....



And the trigger pull is long as hell. I remind myself of that every time I put it in my pocket.



All in all I'd say it's a great little shooter for its intended purpose. It's one of the last guns I'd choose for a gunfight, but it sure beats the hell out of bringing a knife to a knife fight.


The bold part really summarizes the LCP well. I think the point of the LCP is that you can carry it in places where larger guns simply won't go. It offers reasonable capacity, and is accurate enough for it's intended purpose. Also, if you have medium to larger hands, get a few extra magazines with the grip extension, because you won't like shooting it without it. I had mine stippled to add extra retention during wet/bloody handling, and because my hands are large.











You need to first decide what role you want the LCP to fill, then determine what characteristics are important for that role. Once you have that, just create a side by side comparison, and you have your answer.



 
11/29/2010 5:39:56 AM EDT
[#17]
My wife carries an LCP but the sights are the defining issue.  Don't expect the stock gun to be castrating squirrels at 25yds.  

We very much regret not going with the Crimson Trace right off the bat.  It is the next thing on the purchase list but it also means replacing the two holsters we have already purchased (and are happy with).

My wife has small hands and the gun (with the finger extension on the mag) fits her like a full size.  Every recoil complaint I hear when people shoot it comes from someone with large hands or fingers.
11/29/2010 6:16:31 AM EDT
[#18]
I love mine - picked up a couple of weeks ago, only have about 50 rds through it so far.  Easy to carry, light.  Just want I wanted it for.

If I try hard I can actually hit a steel plate (10"x15") at 25 yds or so about 1/3 of the time.  On the other hand, quick fire of 2 rounds I can hit a medium pizza box at 10 yds all the time, just point and shoot.

Great for its intended purpose, very low profile - its a compromise like anything else.  I looked at all/most of the pocket guns, like this best.
11/30/2010 9:20:58 AM EDT
[#19]
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I put 6 rounds in a raccoon from 5-7 yards away, raccoon covered in blood, ran several hundred yards never to be seen again.

Yes, I hit and apparently every where but where it needed to be hit. Ammo- Hornady Critical Defense.

From my personal experience I will not carry a .380 as a primary ccw. In fact I won't own one. Your millage may vary.  


I put a .40 remington golden saber into a pit bull point plank in his noggin, and it didn't phase him. Means nothing.
11/30/2010 11:18:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Dang the Kahr PM9 looks nice as well.
I cant make up my mind!
11/30/2010 1:42:07 PM EDT
[#21]
As with any extremely compact gun, you have to know the limitations of the gun. I like the LCP but I also know it's limits.

It's very small and hard to shoot, which only means that you have to practice with it. I can hit the center of a man out to about 10 yards, but that's because I practiced. It's most certainly not a fighting pistol and you won't be charging into an active shooter situation with this pistol to save the day; only hope that this gun would allow you to make it out alive.

My LCP is 100 percent reliable UNTIL I hit about 50 rounds and then it needs to be cleaned. After I clean it, it WILL be reliable for another 50 or so....more then enough for a defensive gun like this WHEN CLEANED. I'm thinking about adding an 11 lb recoil spring to try and fix this. Stock is 9 lbs. Anyone tried that?

For the price, especially compared to some other guns you mentioned (Sig, Kahr, ect.) it can't be beat. You can hide it anywhere in any kind of day-to-day dress.
11/30/2010 2:41:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I put 6 rounds in a raccoon from 5-7 yards away, raccoon covered in blood, ran several hundred yards never to be seen again.

Yes, I hit and apparently every where but where it needed to be hit. Ammo- Hornady Critical Defense.

From my personal experience I will not carry a .380 as a primary ccw. In fact I won't own one. Your millage may vary.  


I put a .40 remington golden saber into a pit bull point plank in his noggin, and it didn't phase him. Means nothing.


Actually it means that pit bulls have thick, tough noggins and if you want to put one down with a handgun you'd better use a large caliber cartridge with a bullet that will actually penetrate the skull.

It also means that surface wounds are ineffective.

What it doesn't mean is that .40 S&W or any other bona fide service caliber holds no advantage over .380 for self defense.