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9/22/2006 6:04:51 AM EDT
21 Sept 06

News from Glock-dom:

Friends at Glock tell me (1) Glock polymer, pistol frames are now being
manufactured entirely in the USA (GA).  The intent is to move a large  portion of
production over here from Europe.  This is strong evidence that  Glock is
anticipating large, US military orders, where one condition will be  that weapons
be made within the borders of CONUS.

The USMC has taken the lead on designing the new, military pistol.   However,
certain semi-autonomous military units, weary of waiting on the  military
bureaucracy to make a decision, have, on their own, ordered quantities of G22s,
in 40S&W!  So, it looks as if we'll end up with a mixture of  pistols, and
calibers, throughout the military system, no matter how hard those  within the
system try to standardize on one.  Interestingly, 40S&W is a  good performer in
its various high-performance manifestations, all of which  feature
controlled-expansion bullets.  Conversely, 40S&W hardball  doesn't perform much better
than does 9mm hardball!  Are these high-speed  folks planning on being
autonomous enough to procure their own, non-hardball  ammunition inventory too?

(2) Glock's contender for this next, military pistol will look likea G21,
only slimmer.  The slide will be the same size, and it will still have a
double-column magazine, but the grip will not be nearly as fat as is currently  the
case with the G21.  Right now, it's called the "SF45.”  In Glock
numerology, the next number in line would be "G40," which would, of course,  generate
no end of confusion, so the designation, for now anyway, is  GSF45.

The Marines like 45GAP caliber, considering it a good performer, even in  the
hardball configuration they believe themselves to be stuck with.   However,
vendors have been told there will be no new small-arms calibers in the
military system for the foreseeable future.  No 45GAP.  No 6.8mm.

The issue is not performance.  It's a ponderous military logistics system,
combined with the extremely limited ammunition production capacity we  find
ourselves presently saddled with.  Under the GH Bush and Clinton
Administrations, our national archipelago military ammunition plants were all
decommissioned, save one.   We now discover, to our dismay, that one  plant, with the
assistance of virtually every major, domestic, private-sector  ammunition
manufacturer, still cannot keep up with demand, even in the  relatively low-intensity
conflict we're in right now (much less, a world  war!).  Under the GW Bush
Administration, the situation has not  improved.  So, to get a new pistol caliber
ordered, produced, an into every  military storage area (and there are
thousands!), worldwide, in sufficient  quantity to supply a major operationwould take
at least six years, more like  ten!  Accordingly, I'm told any new gun, rifle
or pistol, that ever sees  the light of day, is going to have to shoot what
we already have on hand (with  all its faults).  The new pistol will be
chambered for 45ACP.  NATO pressure to stick with 9mm are, at least for the present,
being ignored.

(3) The SF45 will have an ambidextrous, two-position, manual safety.   It is
designed to mostly disengage itself as the shooter acquires a normal,
shooting grip.  But, it must be manually, consciously re-engaged.   Resembles a
cross-bolt.  Magazine release is ambidextrous/switchable.   The ostensible
necessity for a manual safety is still being hotly debated, but  the “pro" side
currently has the upper hand.

(4) The "G36 Tactical" will soon make its appearance.  The current G36  is
Glock's slim, single-column, compact 45ACP carry gun.  I carry my copy
regularly, and it is a great concealment pistol.  Now, imagine a G36 with a
five-inch slide!  Apparently, there is a big demand for a Glock pistol that is close
to the dimensions of a 1911.  The customer is always right!

(5) Those anticipating the debut of Glock's long-awaited 223 rifle and/or
staple-gun, will still be waiting this time next year!  Glock is trying to get
it produced, but we've been hearing about it for ten years now, and I  suspect
the military pistol project is consuming so much attention that no Glock
rifle will see the light of day in the foreseeable future.

Both the GSF45 and the G36T will be making their debut at the 2007 SHOT  Show
in Orlando, FL in January.

More later

/John Farnham
9/22/2006 7:06:16 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't want a manual safety on my Glock...if I did i'd just get another HK or Sig.  But I guess Glock has do what they have to do to try and get some military contracts.

I'd be all for a single stack full size Glock in .45ACP.  Once that's done maybe they can work on a single stack Glock 26/27/33.  Can anyone say "kahr who?".

Glock .223 carbine????? Sure, i'll believe it when I see it.

45GAP?  No way, i'll stick with my .45ACP.

Oh well, it is always good to hear rumors.  Atleast it sounds like Glock is working on other new guns.

Steve
9/22/2006 11:58:23 AM EDT
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If it isn't fresh out of Gaston's piehole, it ain't worth jack shit!

Iraq Defense Force uses Glock, maybe US Mil. will smarten up and adopt it as well.

HS1
9/22/2006 1:22:51 PM EDT
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Even if it is out of Gaston's mouth, I wouldn't hold my breath. I am still waiting on the product he promised that is going to be as exciting as the first release of the G17... See his article in one of the Glock annuals.
9/22/2006 5:11:54 PM EDT
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21 Sept 06

News from Glock-dom:
More later

/John Farnham


Thanks, keep us posted!
9/22/2006 6:47:21 PM EDT
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....and thats all it is imo