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6/28/2007 8:36:56 PM EDT
Not sure if anybody else has this problem, but even after Loc-titing the safety screw into my DE (even with permanent lock the second time!), it will still work its way loose and physically engage the safety after firing about 25 rounds.  Has anybody else encoutered this and if you have, were you able to solve it?  Thank you for any information in advance.
6/29/2007 11:27:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Pull the screw on both sides of the cam and pull the safety cam.  Soak the cam and both screws in acetone/finger nail remover for a few minutes, then use soaked Q-tips (will have to pull a bit off the tips to allow them to thread into the holes) in the cam threads to remove all the old loctite.  On the screws, you can thread them in to the cam a few times still soaked in acetone to remove the old loctite on their groves.
(read you have to remove all the old loctite from both the cam and screw grooves, and have all the parts such as the selector. levers, springs, (and the side cam parts if you have a MK19) bone dry before replying the new loctite.

Now with the safety parts still bone dry, give the cam hole threads a few drops of Red loctite, and then thread the screws in and out of both sides (outside of the slide).  Now wipe off the loctite that has transferred into the FP middle section/outer surfaces of the cam, and start to install the parts back into the slide.  When you go to add the screws for the final time, add one more drop of red loctite to each screw, then load, tighten the screws up. This will get all of the threads coated without loctite flooding the parts (loctite'g the cam to the slide).  At this point, you want to wait a day before you lube the selector parts or fire the pistol.

Trust me, I played the same game once at the range just getting in some quick trigger time before refinishing the 44 (read screws kept coming loose since I had only debur'd/tuned the pistol and had not loctite'd them back in yet for final assembly after coating).


7/5/2007 1:07:08 AM EDT
[#2]
Thank you very much for the info Dano.  Will do.
7/11/2007 1:49:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Never got around to loctiting mine.  Just would tighten them after every couple mags.  Then they stripped out.  

I didn't want ot pay for them to hard crome a couple of screws, so I replced them with black ones.  Doesn't look too bad.  Them screws are expensive though.
7/19/2007 3:22:24 PM EDT
[#4]
does this happen often on the new DE's?
7/19/2007 4:10:51 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
does this happen often on the new DE's?


Dunno.  Mines is a Mk VII bought in 2000.
7/19/2007 5:35:29 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
does this happen often on the new DE's?


Not really since the screws are loctited at the factory, but keep in mind that time and heat can break the loctite bond down and you can end up with the problem.

Bottom line is if you take the saftey levers screws off, you will need to loctite them back on.