[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Sevigny left Glock... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/8/2011 5:22:39 PM EDT
 I wonder what lucky company will be picking him up... SA or S&W? I'm kinda hoping SA, their XDm's need some publicity.
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I wonder what lucky company will be picking him up... SA or S&W? I'm kinda hoping SA, their XDm's need some publicity.Their XDM's need some redesign. I doubt anyone in that league would represent them. You're kidding right? Ever hear of Rob leatham? |
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<––-Moron, clue one in. Who is this guy and why is it good he is gone. There are hundreds of vids online of him shooting. He's a freaking machine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRUugC70zCw&feature=related |
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Wow, that is surprising and its a big lose for Glock. It’s been a bad 12 months or so for Glock. First Jessie Abbate (who is one of the top female shoots and is drop dead gorgeous to boot) leaves. Then the Gen4 Glocks come out and now this.
The thing to keep in mind for these pro level shooters is; this is not just a hobby for them, it’s their livelihood as well. When a shooter moves from one team to another, it usually has little to nothing to do with the firearms themselves and more to do with contract (either unhappy with their current contract or offered one much better from someone else). Hell Jessie left because Glock wouldn’t allow her to wear a patch on her Team Glock shirt from another sponsor. That’s may seem trivial but that’s money out of her pocket. From what I’ve seen Dave is not only a great shooter but a great guy as well. I’m sure he will do well no matter where he lands and I wish him the best. I have no idea where he’ll end up but I’d like to see him go to team FNH and then get into 3-gun comps. |
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Wow, that is surprising and its a big lose for Glock. It’s been a bad 12 months or so for Glock. First Jessie Abbate (who is one of the top female shoots and is drop dead gorgeous to boot) leaves. Then the Gen4 Glocks come out and now this. The thing to keep in mind for these pro level shooters is; this is not just a hobby for them, it’s their livelihood as well. When a shooter moves from one team to another, it usually has little to nothing to do with the firearms themselves and more to do with contract (either unhappy with their current contract or offered one much better from someone else). Hell Jessie left because Glock wouldn’t allow her to wear a patch on her Team Glock shirt from another sponsor. That’s may seem trivial but that’s money out of her pocket. From what I’ve seen Dave is not only a great shooter but a great guy as well. I’m sure he will do well no matter where he lands and I wish him the best. I have no idea where he’ll end up but I’d like to see him go to team FNH and then get into 3-gun comps. Glock is headed in the wrong direction... What are they thinking??? |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place.
I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile +1 i'm in the same line of thinking as you |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 99% of the people in this thread don't really care about Glock as a company... We're just wondering what the future holds for arguably the best competition shooters around. |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have long suspected that the competition world had shooters who were great at what they did and could pretty much beat the competition with any brand. So Sevigny leaving Glock will impact Glock's sales if he starts using another brand and has similar (or maybe even better) success. But only time will tell, and the results will be so indirect that it will be difficult to link the additional sales to him. Just saying, I'm convinced that it does happen. |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have long suspected that the competition world had shooters who were great at what they did and could pretty much beat the competition with any brand. So Sevigny leaving Glock will impact Glock's sales if he starts using another brand and has similar (or maybe even better) success. But only time will tell, and the results will be so indirect that it will be difficult to link the additional sales to him. Just saying, I'm convinced that it does happen. On that note... I think SA would benefit more from having Dave than S&W would... For some reason the XDm line gets a lot of hate, that could totally be turned around because they really are great guns. |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have long suspected that the competition world had shooters who were great at what they did and could pretty much beat the competition with any brand. So Sevigny leaving Glock will impact Glock's sales if he starts using another brand and has similar (or maybe even better) success. But only time will tell, and the results will be so indirect that it will be difficult to link the additional sales to him. Just saying, I'm convinced that it does happen. No, it won't. 99% of gun owners probably have no clue who this guy is, or even Jessie Abbate or whoever. GLOCK sells guns because they are GLOCK, not because "insert awesome pistol shooter's name here" shoots for there team. I bet money GLOCKs sales will see zero down fall do to this. Now, GEN4's on the other hand... |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have long suspected that the competition world had shooters who were great at what they did and could pretty much beat the competition with any brand. So Sevigny leaving Glock will impact Glock's sales if he starts using another brand and has similar (or maybe even better) success. But only time will tell, and the results will be so indirect that it will be difficult to link the additional sales to him. Just saying, I'm convinced that it does happen. No, it won't. 99% of gun owners probably have no clue who this guy is, or even Jessie Abbate or whoever. GLOCK sells guns because they are GLOCK, not because "insert awesome pistol shooter's name here" shoots for there team. I bet money GLOCKs sales will see zero down fall do to this. Now, GEN4's on the other hand... If it doesn't sell any guns, why does Glock sponsor shooters like this? The companies are betting that it will sell guns. And you can bet it does. |
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Ok maybe this is a dumb question.....buy I suspect that TGO refers to Rob Leatham in some way? TGO being the name of the RL 1911and all, but what does it stand for? Is it like Ricky Carmichael being GOAT, greatest of all time? The Great One (TGO) = Rob Leatham ROB'S MAJOR CAREER STATS: 24 - Time USPSA National Champion 5 - Time IPSC World Champion 16 - Time 1911 Single Stack Classic Champion 9 - Time NRA Bianchi Cup Champion 7 - Time Steel Challenge Champion 6 - Time IDPA CDP National Champion 1 - Time IDPA ESP National Indoor Champion 5 - Division USPSA Champion 1985 Triple Crown Winner 2 - Total Knee Replacements! |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have long suspected that the competition world had shooters who were great at what they did and could pretty much beat the competition with any brand. So Sevigny leaving Glock will impact Glock's sales if he starts using another brand and has similar (or maybe even better) success. But only time will tell, and the results will be so indirect that it will be difficult to link the additional sales to him. Just saying, I'm convinced that it does happen. No, it won't. 99% of gun owners probably have no clue who this guy is, or even Jessie Abbate or whoever. GLOCK sells guns because they are GLOCK, not because "insert awesome pistol shooter's name here" shoots for there team. I bet money GLOCKs sales will see zero down fall do to this. Now, GEN4's on the other hand... The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. |
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Quoted: Quoted: No, it won't. 99% of gun owners probably have no clue who this guy is, or even Jessie Abbate or whoever. GLOCK sells guns because they are GLOCK, not because "insert awesome pistol shooter's name here" shoots for there team. I bet money GLOCKs sales will see zero down fall do to this. Now, GEN4's on the other hand... The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. Which part? Dave leaving or the Gen4 distaste?* *only half serious because I know you're probably being sarcastic. I know I'd put money on the Gen4 Problems (and their huge spread on the internet) as a FAR more important problem for Glock's sales than a paid competitor, of course, all in my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but I've never been one to blindly be fooled(or coerced into buying something) by someone that gets paid to use that product in the first place. |
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The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. Which part? Dave leaving or the Gen4 distaste?* *only half serious because I know you're probably being sarcastic. I know I'd put money on the Gen4 Problems (and their huge spread on the internet) as a FAR more important problem for Glock's sales than a paid competitor, of course, all in my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but I've never been one to blindly be fooled(or coerced into buying something) by someone that gets paid to use that product in the first place. Sevigny leaving. People who like Glocks for competition will still continue to use and buy them. I don't see a lot of folks making purchasing decisions based on what some high-ranked shooter does. Mostly they buy what they want and use the shooter's sponsorship to justify their decision later. |
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Ok maybe this is a dumb question.....buy I suspect that TGO refers to Rob Leatham in some way? TGO being the name of the RL 1911and all, but what does it stand for? Is it like Ricky Carmichael being GOAT, greatest of all time? The Great One (TGO) = Rob Leatham ROB'S MAJOR CAREER STATS: 24 - Time USPSA National Champion 5 - Time IPSC World Champion 16 - Time 1911 Single Stack Classic Champion 9 - Time NRA Bianchi Cup Champion 7 - Time Steel Challenge Champion 6 - Time IDPA CDP National Champion 1 - Time IDPA ESP National Indoor Champion 5 - Division USPSA Champion 1985 Triple Crown Winner 2 - Total Knee Replacements! Thanks bro |
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The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. Which part? Dave leaving or the Gen4 distaste?* *only half serious because I know you're probably being sarcastic. I know I'd put money on the Gen4 Problems (and their huge spread on the internet) as a FAR more important problem for Glock's sales than a paid competitor, of course, all in my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but I've never been one to blindly be fooled(or coerced into buying something) by someone that gets paid to use that product in the first place. Sevigny leaving. People who like Glocks for competition will still continue to use and buy them. I don't see a lot of folks making purchasing decisions based on what some high-ranked shooter does. Mostly they buy what they want and use the shooter's sponsorship to justify their decision later. So Glock wastes its money on sponsorships and should drop them? |
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Maybe i just have to be the lone cynic in the crowd today, but I'm willing to bet that 99.5% of the people that go in and buy a Glock don't know who he is in the first place. I consider myself quite a gun guy, and I didn't know who he was until I clicked on this thread. I doubt this will have jack squat of an affect on Glock's sales performance, IMHO. It's funny that you and some others felt it important to make that keen observation even though nobody even suggested that Dave's departure would have any effect on sales? 
Top level shooting sports are somewhat like NASCAR now and when a top shooter from one of the biggest teams jumps ship, people take note. As far as sale go; no Dave's departure will not cause Glock to go under but Dave has just about ruled the production class with his mostly stock G34 for many years now. I think you would be mistaken to believe that has had no effect on Glock's reputation, popularity and yes, sales. Just because you or the average Joe doesn't know who Dave is doesn't mean that the countless # of people who helped shape and influence your decision didn't know who he is or what he accomplished with his Glock. 
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The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. Which part? Dave leaving or the Gen4 distaste?* *only half serious because I know you're probably being sarcastic. I know I'd put money on the Gen4 Problems (and their huge spread on the internet) as a FAR more important problem for Glock's sales than a paid competitor, of course, all in my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but I've never been one to blindly be fooled(or coerced into buying something) by someone that gets paid to use that product in the first place. Sevigny leaving. People who like Glocks for competition will still continue to use and buy them. I don't see a lot of folks making purchasing decisions based on what some high-ranked shooter does. Mostly they buy what they want and use the shooter's sponsorship to justify their decision later. So Glock wastes its money on sponsorships and should drop them? Given their apparent attitude towards their shooters, I'd say this is an accurate statement. Supposedly Abbate left because they wouldn't let her put another sponsor's patch on her shirt. |
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The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. Which part? Dave leaving or the Gen4 distaste?* *only half serious because I know you're probably being sarcastic. I know I'd put money on the Gen4 Problems (and their huge spread on the internet) as a FAR more important problem for Glock's sales than a paid competitor, of course, all in my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but I've never been one to blindly be fooled(or coerced into buying something) by someone that gets paid to use that product in the first place. Sevigny leaving. People who like Glocks for competition will still continue to use and buy them. I don't see a lot of folks making purchasing decisions based on what some high-ranked shooter does. Mostly they buy what they want and use the shooter's sponsorship to justify their decision later. So Glock wastes its money on sponsorships and should drop them? Nope, not at all. But I would submit that sponsored shooters are somewhat fungible, especially if they're really good. There are probably a few Sevigny fans that are going to get really torqued off about the whole thing, but not enough to hurt sales to any measurable effect. |
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The sales impact on Glock due to this will probably be unmeasurable. Which part? Dave leaving or the Gen4 distaste?* *only half serious because I know you're probably being sarcastic. I know I'd put money on the Gen4 Problems (and their huge spread on the internet) as a FAR more important problem for Glock's sales than a paid competitor, of course, all in my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but I've never been one to blindly be fooled(or coerced into buying something) by someone that gets paid to use that product in the first place. Sevigny leaving. People who like Glocks for competition will still continue to use and buy them. I don't see a lot of folks making purchasing decisions based on what some high-ranked shooter does. Mostly they buy what they want and use the shooter's sponsorship to justify their decision later. So Glock wastes its money on sponsorships and should drop them? Nope, not at all. But I would submit that sponsored shooters are somewhat fungible, especially if they're really good. There are probably a few Sevigny fans that are going to get really torqued off about the whole thing, but not enough to hurt sales to any measurable effect. And if they lose the marketable shooters and another brand picks them up and Glock loses more competitions to competitors, that won't hurt Glock's sales? |
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Some people are funny. They will buy a gun because they see a competitor win with it, or because some Special Forces unit issues it, or they saw it in a movie or TV show.
This will have some impact, although small, because some of his big fans will go out and buy whatever he's shooting. If the above listed reasons didn't effect Glock's sales, why do they show all the TV shows and movies, all their competitive shooters and their accomplishments, and LE and military units using Glocks in their annual magazine? It's marketing, to form people's opinions of their product. |
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If it doesn't sell any guns, why does Glock sponsor shooters like this? The companies are betting that it will sell guns. And you can bet it does. It is not about WHO shoots the guns, but that the guns are used in professional competitions. It is partially about WHO shoots the guns. If they shoot them, they get some recognition, if the shooter WINS, they get more. So, it is about WHO. |
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It's a blow to Glock when a top shooter walks away.
The gun companies don't sponsor shooters because they are charitable. It's no longer Glock versus everybody else, the competition among manufacturers for sales has become intense and I think Glock has been on the loosing end lately; there are other excellent plastic guns to choose from these days. |
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It's a blow to Glock when a top shooter walks away. The gun companies don't sponsor shooters because they are charitable. It's no longer Glock versus everybody else, the competition among manufacturers for sales has become intense and I think Glock has been on the loosing end lately; there are other excellent plastic guns to choose from these days. Agreed. Not many years ago, Glock was the main game in town for polymer pistols for LE and competition use. Then the M&P came around, which was Glock's first real competition in the polymer market. At this point, anything that effects their sales, no matter to what level, should be considered by Glock. They are already starting to lose the solid hold they had on the LE market. |
| I don't know what exactly is going on in some peoples minds, but I will say this. I don't know ANYONE who has bought a glock because Mr. "X" shoots one in competitions. Everyone I know that shoots glocks buys them because they just plain work. I also have NEVER, EVER seen a picture of this dude, or Ms. Abbate accompanying a gun case full of glocks at any gun store I've ever been in. Like I said, him leaving Glock will not have the impact on sales that you think it will. I can also say that probably more then 70 percent of Glocks sales come from movies and rap music songs. The other 29 percent is because its a recognizable name, the other 1 percent? Competition shooters. |