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8/1/2013 10:43:18 AM EDT
How many of you use Shok Buffs in your 1911 both fullsize,commander and Compact(3.5")Are there draw backs in performance using them.
Also I want to put in a drop in Clark Custom recoil plug in my Colt 1991A1 Compact,does this require a full lenght guide rod system.What are the disadvantages of a regular recoil system which I have now and am pleased with the ease of disassembly and the full lenght guide rod system where it appears to need a tool to disassemble.
8/1/2013 10:56:06 AM EDT
[#1]
I would skip the shok buff. There is not really any reason to use one. The FLGR, I have some with and some without. No measurable performance difference. If you are happy with what you have, stick with it. If you do go FLGR, get a solid one piece.

Edit to add: The shok buff can come apart and lock up the gun. It can also take up enough space to prevent the slide stop malfunction clearing process different. The slide will not retract as far as it will without.
8/1/2013 12:43:58 PM EDT
[#2]
OK thanks.Thinking about getting the Clarks Custom reverse drop in recoil spring plug but am not sure if I would need to get a new Bushing also.
8/2/2013 9:26:20 AM EDT
[#3]
Personally, I would avoid both the guide rod and the buffer.
8/2/2013 9:49:12 AM EDT
[#4]
Me!
I use them (Wilson Combat's Shock Buffs)... but only on 5" guns and only on the ones chambered for .460 Rowland.  I can feel the difference when they are NOT being used, so I'm sure the host frames appreciate it and will last a little longer than without shock buffs.
8/2/2013 9:51:32 AM EDT
[#5]
My Kimbers came with full length guide rods.  I added the shok buffs.  I have used them in every 1911 I have owned over the years and have had no issues with them.
8/2/2013 10:07:24 AM EDT
[#6]
Yep, flgr and shock buffs in my TRP.
8/2/2013 1:00:29 PM EDT
[#7]
I wouldn't do either of those things on a carry gun.

I do use shock buffs in my original 1911's, but they are range only guns. If they cause a malfunction now and then it's no big deal.
8/2/2013 4:17:27 PM EDT
[#8]
I use them both in all my 1911's and have for years. Yes even in my carry guns which is all of them and never a malfunction of any kind. Just replace the buffs when they start to show signs of  starting to split or excessive wear and you'll be fine. Also use a QUALITY buffer, I use Wilson religiously.
8/2/2013 5:10:44 PM EDT
[#9]
These items serve a dual purpose: to lighten your wallet. Both are solutions for no known problem.
8/2/2013 7:34:05 PM EDT
[#10]
I like Wilson Shok Buffs but I only use them in full size 1911's. I think I read somewhere that they weren't recommended for commander and officer frames.
8/2/2013 8:18:27 PM EDT
[#11]
if it didnt come with one you dont need it.
8/3/2013 1:22:26 AM EDT
[#12]
I have a SA TRP that was flawless for the first 1000 rnds.  Not one FTF or FTE.  Put in a shock-buff and began to have all sorts of problems.  Took it back out and problems disappeared.  YMMV
8/3/2013 3:31:05 AM EDT
[#13]
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I like Wilson Shok Buffs but I only use them in full size 1911's. I think I read somewhere that they weren't recommended for commander and officer frames.
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Very true,....the shock buffers limit the already shortened slide travel.
May be ok in a range gun, but a very bad idea in a carry.
Proper weight spring and correct replacement interval and there is not concern with frame battering.
8/3/2013 4:19:53 AM EDT
[#14]
I don't use shok buffs at all. it takes away slide travel. They are a deffinate no go in the commanders and officers size guns for that reason.
The Clark reverse plug is a good option. It works like the factory plug. Goes into the side from the rear. there is a small tab that you might have to do some very minor filing to fit the slot in the bottom of the slide.
It's much stonger than the factory plug which only has the tab holding it in the slide. The Clrak has a thick flange around it that holds it in the slide.
Also don't forget to change that recoil spring every 500 rounds. The Officers guns beat up the spring much faster than the fulll size guns.
Wolff makes a single recoil spring that replaces the factory double spring. make sure you get the spring that fits the factory guide rod. ( They also make one that fits aftermarket full lenght guide rods.)

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/clk1911pts.htm#guiderod

CLK 208 Blued or stainless

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-springs/officers-acp-compact-recoil-spring-prod24870.aspx?avs|Manufacturer_1=WOLFF

The 22 lb spring