The only problem I have with my Sig Sauer pistol is that it makes me want to buy another one .I've shot several hundred rounds through my P220R since receiving it early last month. No issues thus far. It is much lighter than I expected it to be. The factory DA/SA trigger is okay for now but I'm going to save up my green stamps and send in my P220R to Sig for a SRT treatment. |
When you do get the action enhancement package done too. It is a noticeable improvement on the DA pull. I have a 228, a 229 and my 220. I had the AE and SRT done on the 220 but not on the 228 or 229 yet. The SRT is worth every penny. The action enhancement is nice too. Shooting them side by side the SRT really shines. |
| I have a P220 K-coat law enforcement edition. I have put hundreds of rounds through it without a single Jam, misfire or anything even close. flawless performance. I highly recomend anything that comes from the Sig Sauer factory. They are some of the best handguns in the world in my opinion. A small issue that i have is the magazine cannot go in slowly. It will not seat fully. Slam it in so it clicks into place. |
I had this problem with my P220ST. I bought several ACT-MAG mags for it, haven't had a problem since. Both of the factory mags have been back to Sig. They replaced the springs and then they're OK for 2-3 loads, then start acting up again. Also, my takedown lever broke once. Getting a replacement from Sig took a little while. If you are a LEO (or claim to be  ) you'll suddenly get it in 2-3 days.That's the only problem this gun has had to my knowledge. I bought it used from a local range, it has tens of thousands of rounds through it, and they gave me a lifetime warranty. They must be pretty confident that it's going to last a while. I love Sig's, they're my favorite handgun manufacturer hands down. 
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I have two Sigs and both are shit. I would never recomend one. 226 and Mosquito 226- rust quickly even in the safe, slide does not lock back 25% of the time, needs to be wet with lube to run. The more you shoot it, the drier it gets, the more problems it has. Mosquito- FTF, FTE you name it, poor qualtiy all around On the other hand my Kimbers have been 100%. I still have a warrior that is my favorite 1911 and I own several including a Colt 70 and a Brown. I quess its just the luck of the draw. |
Is you Kimber series II or pre-II? I've heard that new swartz safety is bad but I don't own one... |
My Kimber is not a series II. The Kimber Warriors do not have the swartz safety. I think you can buy one that is called a Warrior II that does have it but I have not seen one in person. The extra safteys are just not needed IMO and complicate the 1911. |
Yes it does work off the grip safety but it does not affect shooting at all. You will never know it is there and for some reason you don't like it, it is very easy to take off the handgun all together. Most people do not like the extra safetys on 1911s because they see them as something to go wrong that is not needed. The original 1911 has all the safetys anyone would ever need. The people that came up with the plunger(colt), Swartz(Kimber), and locks you see on the Springfield arm guns just put them on there for the same reason Ruger puts "READ OWNERS MANUAL" an the side of all there guns. Hope all this helps. Keep in mind this is just my point of view and I'm sure others will chime in. |
No, its no big deal. Most people I know love there TLE Kimbers. I have several friends with them and only one had to go back to kimber. The thing did not shoot point of aim. SHot about a foot to the left at 10 yards. Kimber paid shipping and its been 100% for 3-4 years now. I also see where you were looking at a Springfield Champion Operator. I would like one of those. I wish they used a barrel bushing but other than that they look great. Have you shot one? |
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Good to know you know a few people with the TLE with few problems. All I hear online is bad stuff.he Any idea how long the II series has been out? I wonder if the 3-4 y/o ones are series I... |
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No the old Kimbers were made in Clackamas Or. and are much older. They bring a little more than the newer Yonkers NY guns. There were some newer series I guns like my Warrior (can't remember the other names) but they are few and far between and all the TLE were series II. I think kimber would assume if someone wanted a series I TLE that they would buy a Warrior. E.T.A. a picture of my warrior. 
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| Its kinda heavy but can be done. Kimber does not make anything like that with out the Series II. The closest thing is the Springfield Champion Operator. Thats more of a CCW than the Warrior of TLE. Kimber offers lots of small 1911s but just not set up like that. |
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I think I'm going to give the Pro TLE/RL II a chance. The 4" version of any 1911 seems quite easy to conceal for someone my size and from what I've heard I'm willing to take my chances with any issues. You heard of anyone actually having issue with that safety and not having it fire because of a poor grip on the pistol? All I hear is that its no good and whatnot but no actual issues... |
Not that I can recall and like I said, if you don't like the extra safety just take it out. |
| ive put well over 5000 rounds in a p220 never missed a beat,got it in 94 so im pretty sure it german made,but my 229 in 40 is us made,only got about 900rd but so far flawless, i think if you wanna compare a sig to a kimber than take a stock low end un customized kimber and a stock sig p220 and it wouldn`t be close,now take a p220 match and compare it to a kimber ultra carry the sig would still out shoot it,shoot 3000 rds in that kimber,than see what you got |
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The problem with the Kimber Swartz system is that the lift bar in the frame can (IMHO) be easily damaged during disassembly/assembly of the pistol. Should that happen the gun is going to go Click when you're expecting a BANG. Good thing is it is easily neutered. 
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I bought the TLE II in late '04. It has about 1300 rounds through it (maybe 1200 WWB and 100 Hydrashok), is well maintained and has not had any issues at all. I carry it fairly often but it is not my only 1911 or handgun. While I can't confirm or deny that Kimber has had QC problems as many report, I certainly haven't seen anything that would indicate QC to be an issue. |
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I've worked the counter at a gun store for the past 3 years that sells enough Sigs to be at the Law Enforcement distributor level AND SIGnificant dealer level. We have at least 200 to 300 Sigs in the store at any given time. In the past three years I have seen the Sig quality control become steadily worse: The variance in DAK triggers alone is alarming. The Mosquito plain sucks. I've come to cringe every time a customer buys one because I KNOW, FOR SURE, that they are going to have serious problems and will be coming back to the store to complain. The only guns I still have confidence in are the all black, traditional guns that made Sig famous - 226, 229, 239, and 220. All the new fangled offshoots (Elite, Platinum, SCT, PME, Equinox, SAS) are to be considered suspect until proven otherwise. The only Sigs I have personally purchased recently are 5 to 10 year old used traditional models. I found a P239 and P229 on Gunbroker for $400 and $425 respectively, and snatched them up. I'm also keeping my eye out for more used ones, because just like no-lock S&W revolvers, once the new (junk) ones are commonplace, the old ones will only increase in value. |