Posted: 12/25/2011 9:49:05 PM EDT
| I want to venture into sig. Been shooting my dads P226 alot and want to get one of their guns. I stick with .45 though. As a 1911 guy, anyone have experience with their 1911's or the P220? I cant decide which one I want. I already have 3 1911s so Im leanin toward the 220. just lookin for words of experience! thanks |
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I have an older stamped and folded steel slide and pinned breach block 1994 P220...the P220 was thought to be one of the finest DA/SA .45ACP pistols you could get...reliable and accurate out of the box...if your frame of reference and experience, the DA/SA or newer DAO, DAK and SA will take some getting used to but there are MANY fine examples of these fine pistols out there...
...I had sold my duty P220 when I went 1911 pattern pistols but had to buy a co workers when he decided to sell to get one back in the rotation again...slim (not quite 1911 slim) about the weight of a Government alloy framed 1911...should kick about the same...higher bore axis but nothing you can't handle...about the size of a Commander...need smaller???...there is the P220 Carry and the P220 Compact or very similar but older (more like my vintage P220) P245... Good luck with your choice... Bill |
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I also have a SiGARMS GSR Revolution STX and find it too is a fine pistol...they will take most anything any other 1911 will do, high quality parts...reliable...just remember with SiG 1911s...generally speaking...all of their 1911 pattern pistols are the same inside...even those that have been to the custom shop but for their extras...therefore...an XO may be just as sweet a shooter as their most expensive model but the more expensive model may have more extras to make it worth it to you to purchase that particular model...I am a SouthPaw and bought my STX because I thought I wanted the magazine guide, ambi-safety and the grooved flat top pistol...as fine as any other in its price range...
Bill |
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Most of my handguns run with a light coat of light grease. The GSR was too tight to run with the grease on a 40 degree day. Functioning was very sluggish. The chamber was too tight for reloads that worked in everything else I shoot. It also has extraction issues right out of the box, and made a trip back to Sig. It was a blocky gun, and was noticeably heavier than my other 1911s. It just seemed completely wrong. I gladly traded it off, and do not miss it one bit. I had three 220s that ran great, and a 228. I dumped them off when I found that Sig would not stand behind them. Google up and do some research on Sigs customer service before spending your money. |
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First, the older GSR Sigs are not the same of the currant Sig 1911s. I have not seen a signal bad post about the currant Sig 1911 by anybody who owns one. Well there was one about the finish but Sig took care of the issue. It was the Scorpin model. You will get a lot of 1911 owners complaining about the Sig slide shape but Sig has released several models with the traditional 1911 slide shape. I have a Sig Tacops Carry and its a great gun.
For the P220, I have never owned one but have looked at getting one several times. Went with a 1911 instead. I do own several other Sigs to include 226, 228, and 229 etc. Most are 9mm but 2 are .40. These ranged from the old W.German Sigs to the current US made. I have had no issues with how any of these shoot to include the currant US made. All are great guns. The .40 P226 I have does seem to have a finish issue. The finish on the rails seem to be coming off. Sig has been bashed on the internet a lot for one reason or another. A lot of the people doing the bashing do not even own Sigs. How many issues has your Dad had with his P226? I fyou like the P226 then you well like the P220 just as much. |
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Most of my handguns run with a light coat of light grease. The GSR was too tight to run with the grease on a 40 degree day. Functioning was very sluggish. The chamber was too tight for reloads that worked in everything else I shoot. It also has extraction issues right out of the box, and made a trip back to Sig. It was a blocky gun, and was noticeably heavier than my other 1911s. It just seemed completely wrong.
I gladly traded it off, and do not miss it one bit. I had three 220s that ran great, and a 228. I dumped them off when I found that Sig would not stand behind them. Google up and do some research on Sigs customer service before spending your money. Why would you dump guns because of something you read on the internet  Did you have any issues yourself with Sigs customer service? You sent your GSR back, what was your expirence?
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Sig CPO German P220s for $555.
I have a P220R and used to have a non-rail P220 like in the link. They're superb handguns. |
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Most of my handguns run with a light coat of light grease. The GSR was too tight to run with the grease on a 40 degree day. Functioning was very sluggish. The chamber was too tight for reloads that worked in everything else I shoot. It also has extraction issues right out of the box, and made a trip back to Sig. It was a blocky gun, and was noticeably heavier than my other 1911s. It just seemed completely wrong.
I gladly traded it off, and do not miss it one bit. I had three 220s that ran great, and a 228. I dumped them off when I found that Sig would not stand behind them. Google up and do some research on Sigs customer service before spending your money. Sig is known for producing a lot of junk these days. I'm sure some Sig fan boys will be here soon to say that is not true but all you have to do is a search or spend a little time on Sig forums and read up on all the problems people are having. I would never buy a new Sig today. |
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Not a Sig fanboy, just posting based on my experiences. I have three, "US made" Sigs, all made within the last two years. Here are my experiences with them:
P229 Dark Elite, 9mm: 900 rounds through, zero failures of any sort. P226 Combat TB: 3,000 rounds through including no cleaning or lubing for 2,000 rounds. Zero failures. P229, 40: 1,200 rounds through, have not cleaned or lubed it since it was brand new. Zero failures. I'd buy the 220 if I were you, to have something different. They do make a 220 SAO w/ thumb safety version you might like. |
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Since you already have three 1911s I'd suggest picking p a P220; mine has been an outstanding performer, extremely accurate and 100% reliable for over 4000 rounds right out of the box with FMJ range crap as well as RA 45B and 230 grain HST. http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5106/img2286e.jpg That is one beautiful pistol.......sounds like she runs well for you too! |
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i own a 220 its one of those newer junk models but it eats all ammo and has about 1000 rounds down the pipe it feeds +p hollow points thru it and it runs jsut fine i run cheap blazer ammo and not one problem. i love this gun its a blast to shoot
(the part when i said junk model it was sarcasm) addressing QC issues. i think its blown out of proportion with the internet its the squeaky wheel getting grease theory. how many people get sig guns and never have issues? plus anyone standing up for sig is seen as a fan boy and all a sudden your opinion means nothing because you are labeled as fan boy. so do your own research form your own opinion. and i would buy a p220 with confidence its a great gun. |
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Maybe I have just been lucky, but none of the Sigs I own have had the first problem or malfunction and I hove more than ten. I have two 220's and love them to death. They were my first venture into .45 and taught me that is a very sweet caliber. The 200s prompted me to also pick up a pair of P245s. great guns.
I have not gotten to the Sig 1911's, but have yet to find the first negative anything posted. I have seen several threads with folks praising them at least on the level of Springers and Colts. When I do move on to 1911s, I will have a SIG 1911 on my bucket list. As an aside, I love the Glock fanbois dissin Sig when they get the chance...when it comes to 1911 they haven't got anything but empty comments to throw 
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Quoted: Quoted: Most of my handguns run with a light coat of light grease. The GSR was too tight to run with the grease on a 40 degree day. Functioning was very sluggish. The chamber was too tight for reloads that worked in everything else I shoot. It also has extraction issues right out of the box, and made a trip back to Sig. It was a blocky gun, and was noticeably heavier than my other 1911s. It just seemed completely wrong. I gladly traded it off, and do not miss it one bit. I had three 220s that ran great, and a 228. I dumped them off when I found that Sig would not stand behind them. Google up and do some research on Sigs customer service before spending your money. Sig is known for producing a lot of junk these days. I'm sure some Sig fan boys will be here soon to say that is not true but all you have to do is a search or spend a little time on Sig forums and read up on all the problems people are having. I would never buy a new Sig today. You only hear about the bad things in a product because that's the only time people will raise their voice about them. You never really hear anyone speak when business is usual. |
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I don't like 1911's with proprietary parts. Even if the external extractor works, I'm not interested. There is no need to change a working design. I don't know the answer to this, does Sig's1911's slide shape cause problems with tight holsters? Yes. There's more material toward the top of the SIG's slide due to the flatter radius of the slide top. In principle, I agree with your stance on the external extractor. The SIG is my second 1911 with an external extractor (Kimber is the other) and so far, both have worked fine. Then again, I like to experiment, so it doesn't bother me. I believe Caspian, at one point, also made EE's in the SIG pattern, so they aren't as proprietary as some designs. |
| I have a P226, P230, P228, P245, and a 1911 C3....all are fine guns, with absolutely no problems.....I have put 700 rds through the C3 in the past 10 days.....I am really impressed with Sig.....I'd go for one of their 1911's.....but then, the P220 is a fine gun too..... |
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Im a sig Fan since I bought my first Sig in the mid 90`s P229 40S&W
I havent had a reason to call customer service ! Not a single problem with my old USA slide/german frame Love the 1911 but I wouldnt buy a Sig 1911 myself When it comes to 1911 Im a Colt guy I wouldnt have a problem with the Sig 220 Its a oustanding Pistol. I sometimes wish I bought it instead of my P229 |
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Most of my handguns run with a light coat of light grease. The GSR was too tight to run with the grease on a 40 degree day. Functioning was very sluggish. The chamber was too tight for reloads that worked in everything else I shoot. It also has extraction issues right out of the box, and made a trip back to Sig. It was a blocky gun, and was noticeably heavier than my other 1911s. It just seemed completely wrong.
I gladly traded it off, and do not miss it one bit. I had three 220s that ran great, and a 228. I dumped them off when I found that Sig would not stand behind them. Google up and do some research on Sigs customer service before spending your money. Sig is known for producing a lot of junk these days. I'm sure some Sig fan boys will be here soon to say that is not true but all you have to do is a search or spend a little time on Sig forums and read up on all the problems people are having. I would never buy a new Sig today. I feel the same way about GLOCK Gen 4 and the newer Gen 3 so many problems. |