Posted: 6/6/2005 11:17:30 PM EDT
| See the topic, I was looking into one of these and it looks rather nice. I was wondering as well how would the magwell work with the Wilson Combat 8 rounders, or are there some different mags that you would suggest. Also, please post any pics you can find cause I really the pistol to keep my eyes on the prize. Thanks!!! |
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Personally, I skip on that model & drop a level or two in price. A lot of the gizmos they put on top end 1911s are less than worthless but yet you've shelled out $$$$ for them to be on the gun. I'd do perhaps a TRP model? Maybe a mil-spec & then build it into exactly what you want? My .o2 |
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If you go over to the Springfield Forum at www.1911forum.com and do a search you will find more info on the subject than you can read. In my opinion the Pro is deffinately worth the price for what you are getting, the pistol is awesome IMHO. Do I own one....No, I can't shoot well enough to justify the cost myself. I do own both a SS TRP and a TRP Operator however. As for the Wilson 8 round mags there is also info on the 1911forum about issues with these mags and certian SA Models. A few years ago the SA Pro was spec'd out by the FBI using Wilson 8 round mags when they started having FTF issues with duty pistols. SA switched over to Metalform 7 rounders and the problem went away. There have been a number of discussions on the Wilson FTF issues lately on the 1911Forum. I think SA switched all the models to Metalform mags at that time. You will also find a Picture post there showing quite a few Pro's as well as every other model SA you can think of. Karsten |
Ambi safety, forward slide serrations, mag well, etc. etc. Not necessarily restricted to, or included on the SA Pro model, but there's way too much extra stuff on a lot of 1911s I have no use for nor a desire to pay for. |
I believe the Pro model uses all tool steel internals and every gun is built and fitted by their custom shop gunsmiths. Where as the TRP and loaded models are put together from their regular assembly-line personnel (non-custom shop) and use MIM parts. As each Professional is finished, no custom-shop smith knows which gun will go to the FBI and which one goes for commercial sale so every gun is put together with the same care and specs the FBI has outlined. You can change some of the options but the gun will not have the 'Professional' stamping on it but will still have the Springfield Custom stamping on it....
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Mmmm...TRP. My dad has the stainless model and I don't know how the pro could be better. Better parts and fitting...probably but his TRP is 100% reliable and more accurate then either of us will ever be able to shoot it. I think Springfield is selling the pro at the higher price because it's what the FBI uses and not any real intrinsic (sp?) value over the TRP. All that said, if I had the money I would buy it.
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IIRC without opening my safe the MIM parts on an SA are the Hammer Slide Realease Safety Ambi Safety Firing Pin Stop Most likely the Beaver Tail as well. I also beleive the extractor is as well. A lot of talk but and forth on both the Kimber and SA forums on the 1911 forum about the MIM parts. I have never had a problem and neither have the majority of owners. I have read scatters incidences of a MIM Safety Thumb lever snapping and a early failure of a slide stop/release. The most commom as I recall were a bad batch of firing pin stops that were cracking. But this was a problem with both SA and Kimber for just a short time frame and the problem hasn't been bought up in a couple years. The Pro is a work of art and you can tell from just holding it. My SS TRP, TRP Operator or Lwt Compact with all hit Minute of Man and better in a pinch at 50-100 yards......That is all I need. All three are and have been awesome pistols with the TRP Operator being one tight slide to frame fit. The SS TRP was NIB but when I got it home it was dirtier than any pistol I had ever seen run a whole IPSC match using Bullseye. I think someone maybe spent an extend lunch hour at the factory with this pistol. It is smooth as glass with this distinct sucking sound when you rack the slide. The SS TRP or TRP in Armory coat are about the best value in a mid range 1911 pistol in my opinion and are quite capable of 1.5-2 inch groups at 15-25 yards. Karsten |
I few years of reading post on MIM Parts, SA Verus Kimber posts, My SA Broke for the three time type posts and the list goes on. I also broke out my TRP, TRP Operator and Lwt Compact to have a looksee. Once agian, if you have specific questions on a Model, be it SA, Kimber and any of the others there is a wealth of knowledge and experience on the 1911Forum.com. You don't get general infomation but you get information on the model you are thinking about from owners of that very model. There are more than likely 30 TRP Pro owners alone to get advice from. I just did a search for MIM parts and there are 300 some odd post just about MIM parts there. http://forums.1911forum.com/search.php?searchid=720167 Karsten |
That's a very general statement. You can't compare the parts on a low end SA , or the TRP, to the SA Professional as they dont have the same parts. The parts most people are concerned about being MIM are the ignition parts, i.e. hammer, and sear. Most of your higher end 1911's all have tool steel, machined, ignition parts and the SA Professional is no exception. The safety and the beavertail is not a high stress part. Everything I know of regardless of cost uses either cast or MIM beavertail and thumb safety. I do not know of any of these parts as being forged. Back to the original subject, the SA Professional is a fine pistol and is made with parts equal to or on par with any Wilson, Les Baer, or Ed Brown 1911. |
Thank you sir, this is what I wanted to get, I wanted to justify the price for myself before I shell out the $. |
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Illini I researched long and hard before purchasing my first 1911 and the PRO was out of my league. I did lurk @ 1911.com and never heard a dissenting remark about the PRO, only rave reviews. If I had $2K it would be in my safe, unfortunatly my budget was half of that. ETA they do not depreciate much, that is if you can even find a used one. |