Posted: 11/6/2015 8:00:49 PM EDT
It finally happened on Sunday. After 3,000+ rounds through my 19, I had my first stoppage. Failure to feed. Quick recap of conditions: Pmag, Tula Brass Max, weapon hadn't been cleaned or lubed in over 1,000 rounds, and all internals were stock except for a Zev trigger. Now I know that every machine fails at some point, even Glocks, blah blah blah. And I still trust this little thing with my life, especially with heavier defensive ammo. But my question is this: if a failure occurs, what do you guys do with the gun before you trust it enough to carry it again?
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Your gun did not malfunction. The owner malfunctioned. Junk aftermarket mags, junk ComBloc ammo, and too lazy to clean your tool. What did you expect? Praise for being sub standard dealing with the best firearm made. Category: user induced failure. you read my mind... |
Random stoppages like that I don't much worry about. Clear it and move on. If I see a pattern, I look at probable causes. For example, my last G19 experienced a couple of failures to eject at around 5000 rounds. I replaced the extractor and the problem never resurfaced. I had another G19 that started failing to lock back on an empty mag at about 5000 rounds. I replaced the slide stop lever and, again, the problem went away. You probably had an underpowered round and the slide didn't retract fully. Or, it was a result of cheap mags, cheap ammo, and aftermarket parts. 
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Your gun did not malfunction. The owner malfunctioned. Junk aftermarket mags, junk ComBloc ammo, and too lazy to clean your tool. What did you expect? Praise for being sub standard dealing with the best firearm made. Category: user induced failure. That's gonna leave a mark. 
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That pistol looks like a circus gun. I expect those to not run and they seldom do.
The Gen4 19 I've been using this year is bone stock and has over 5K rounds of Speer Lawman and about 200 rounds of Gold Dots through it and has not choked once. I've shot Glocks for over ten years and through several tens of thousands of rounds I can remember one bad-ass FTF on an early Gen4 19. Other than that, a few bad rounds from bulk ammo. |
Personally I would want to know WHY it failed.
Junk Combloc ammo? Bad mag? Or, Is it the fact that your piss poor cleaning and maintance schedule failed you? Can't believe you guys with your poor cleaning schedules and still rely on it for your EDC. 
Maybe you should clean and lube the gun. Use real ammo instead of cheap shit, Factory mag, and a clean gun. See what happens then. 
Betcha you will find the Nit-wit pulling the trigger is the culprit.
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I don't think the OP is actually serious. Never said "this POS failed after 3000 rds of shit ammo....." etc. Personally, I think 3000 rounds between failure of Tula ammo is quite impressive.
At least the OP has a sort of failure baseline. No need to call the OP a moron for what he does with HIS gun. |
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Thinking this isn't a issues with cleaning ( even though my EDC would be damn clean never know what lint and skin cells can do with residue) but with ammo choices. I purchased a couple of boxes of tula brass as the price was less than winchester white box. In a stock Sig 226 i had one round not even cycle the slide and quite a few light loads YMMV. On the other hand my normal cheap ammo choice WWB i have found backwards/missing primers and a round with no powder(G17 bullet stayed in cartridge). So putting any stock in cheap ammo is just asking for disappointment or be prepared for malfuntions that will happen from time to time thats why it is range ammo not personal protection or competition ammo. Btw i Like the slide work O.P.
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Nonidea how many rounds I've got through my 34. One day at a steel plate shoot I had two double feeds. One in the first string and another in the second string, each time with different mags. Never figured it out and it never happened again either. All I'm saying is don't sweat it, your gun runs at a fraction under 100% and that's damned good. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |