Posted: 11/15/2013 7:09:54 PM EDT
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I started detail stripping my new (to me) Norinco this week. One of the grip bushings came off with the grip, two others came out fine and one was stuck. When I was trying to remove it, I horked up and stripped the notch the screwdriver goes into. I've filed it down a little more so there's a place for a screwdriver to catch and have it soaking in liquid wrench to loosen up an corrosion. Any other tips? |
| install the grip screw back into the bushing with plenty of loctite and let dry for a couple hours. get a good set of small vice grips and a screw driver and have someone else hold the gun or put in a vice and unscrew both together. use old screws to do this and just throw away when finished. |
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Bushings have become semi-disposable to me. (so I keep some around)
(the locktie and grip screw trick does work) But I hate waiting for it to dry, so I usually CAREFULLY vise grip them out, if they get stripped. Do Norincos have a different thread pitch on the bushings? (I could probably dig a standard thread bushing up for you, but I don't know if it will work) |
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Bushings have become semi-disposable to me. (so I keep some around) (the locktie and grip screw trick does work) But I hate waiting for it to dry, so I usually CAREFULLY vise grip them out, if they get stripped. Do Norincos have a different thread pitch on the bushings? (I could probably dig a standard thread bushing up for you, but I don't know if it will work) Nawp, they appear to be standard. I'm not trying to save the bushing, just get it out. I let it soak over night in liquid wrench and it's still stucked up in there. Off to try the locktite thing. |
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Your first mistake was thinking a detail strip was required!
However I have had the same problem swapping grips on every 1911 I have ever had except my les baers gi's colts systemas a very common issue ( a previous edition of the American handgunner had an article on this recently) |
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May want to check and see if the bushing is 'staked' to the frame.
Last time that happened to me, I used an indexed set of drill bits to remove the 'spent' bushing. The bushing was not hardened or difficult to drill. Start with a bit just a wee bit bigger than the screw hole and work your way out slowly & carefully. Eventually, you'll be able to 'crush' the bushing and pull it out without damaging the frame threads. You won't have to struggle with a screw driver or dremel. If there's a weak spot in the 1911 design, the grip bushings may be it. Of course, YMMV. |
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May want to check and see if the bushing is 'staked' to the frame. Last time that happened to me, I used an indexed set of drill bits to remove the 'spent' bushing. The bushing was not hardened or difficult to drill. Start with a bit just a wee bit bigger than the screw hole and work your way out slowly & carefully. Eventually, you'll be able to 'crush' the bushing and pull it out without damaging the frame threads. You won't have to struggle with a screw driver or dremel. If there's a weak spot in the 1911 design, the grip bushings may be it. Of course, YMMV. he says the others came right out so I wouldnt think one was staked in but hey ya never know and unless you have a drill press and the correct bits I wouldnt try to take a drill to it but sometimes a left hand bit will pull them right out. dont get in a rush and you will be fine the way you are doing it now. |
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he says the others came right out so I wouldnt think one was staked in but hey ya never know and unless you have a drill press and the correct bits I wouldnt try to take a drill to it but sometimes a left hand bit will pull them right out. dont get in a rush and you will be fine the way you are doing it now. Quoted:
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May want to check and see if the bushing is 'staked' to the frame. Last time that happened to me, I used an indexed set of drill bits to remove the 'spent' bushing. The bushing was not hardened or difficult to drill. Start with a bit just a wee bit bigger than the screw hole and work your way out slowly & carefully. Eventually, you'll be able to 'crush' the bushing and pull it out without damaging the frame threads. You won't have to struggle with a screw driver or dremel. If there's a weak spot in the 1911 design, the grip bushings may be it. Of course, YMMV. he says the others came right out so I wouldnt think one was staked in but hey ya never know and unless you have a drill press and the correct bits I wouldnt try to take a drill to it but sometimes a left hand bit will pull them right out. dont get in a rush and you will be fine the way you are doing it now. Nah. it was just rust-locked in there. Soaked it in liquid wrench overnight, used a hacksaw blade to cut the notch deeper into the bushing so the screwdriver could get some bite and then cranked on it. Finally came out. There's light surface rust on some of the internals which is why I wanted to swap all the springs and whatnot and give it a good cleaning. It's a 'Rinco, so the dang thing is at least 20 years old. I'm just amazed that the slide and frame are so gorram hard but everything inside seems to be made of pot metal. Damn heathen Chinee! 
Pic of buggered bushing: 
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If you need a bushing shoot me your info. I think I'm good. I just wanted to tear the thing down and rebuild it. I sorta want to get any new parts in stainless so I know what I added and then get the whole thing redone in NP3 at some point. I'm a huge fan of franken-guns. Unrelated, but what's your avatar from? My brain is telling me it's an album cover... |
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Welp, not to necromancer-ize a thread, but my bushing ordeal is over.
Finally got that !@# bushing out of the frame, then the one that was jammed up in the grip so everything was ready to go. Grabbed some fresh bushings and found out the !@#$ Norinco grip was metric threaded so the bushings wouldn't work. Sigh. Ordered the standard bushing tap from Midway around the 23rd, got it today. Read the threads on what to do to fix the threads (hah!) and then got stuck on a call with Cisco about a misbehaving router in the network. Promptly ignored all the advice, ran the tap through the original holes with a cordless drill and some of the Liquid Wrench for lube and SUCCESS!! Put in 4 new bushings. No cross threading, no having to order the oversized bushing kit because I done effed anything up. New bushings went in like they were made for the gun. Threw on the ugly grips I got on Amazon for 14 bucks and AWAY I GO. Very happy with my first shade-tree gunsmithing on a 1911. Now that I'm off the phone with the vendor I'm going to order a new mainspring housing and maybe a couple other parts. Thanks to everyone in this thread. I'm looking forward to asking more inane questions in the future (although I might grab a couple RIAs before I start trying to really dig into fitting things). |