Posted: 3/27/2004 7:42:49 AM EDT
| Which suppressor would you recommend for my Glock 21? |
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My friend has a Gemtech SOS-45 on his Glock 21, and he is very happy with it. It is a "wet" can, so it gets its highest rating that way. I think he uses CLP or something like that as his "wetter." He does not use water, as Gemtech does not recommend it (if I remember correctly.) www.gem-tech.com |
Couldn't have said it any better. SWR makes the best suppressors on the market. |
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The SWR can be fired dry by the way, and dry it is the most effective (dry) suppressor on the market. 28DB dry. 38 wet. AAC's Tactical is probably in the low 20's dry (that won't sound very suppressed at all.) The AAC can is meant to be fired wet as it is basically barely dropping the impulse past 140DB's dry. By the way I would go for a guarantee that the pistol will cycle with the suppressor attached as the Glock is pretty finicky when it comes to suppressors. (SWR makes a recoil booster specifically for the Glock) AAC's suppressor is not boosted and is designed for the HK tactical. If you want a wet can the $550 price tag on the AAC tactical makes it a tempting propostion, otherwise the SWR is deffinitely the way to go. The larger capacity of the boosted can makes it quieter dry than non-boosted cans. The SWR phase shift will help a lot in the 28DB range, as the some of the sound will be phase shifted beyond the human audible range and your ears will hear less of it. CCFA supposedly came out with a suppressor grease that will keep a wet suppressor at near peak suppression for 60rds. That (if true) would be a very significant achievement and would deffinitely do a bit to level the playing field between boosted and non-boosted .45 cans. |
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Green0, thanks for the gret info. Sorry for being such a dumbass, but what does boosted/booster mean? It ADDS recoil to help cycle the gun? How? Also, you brought up some good info on cycling. I was reading in the AAC catalog about one of their two .45 cans (maybe both?) being one of the few on the market that will work reliably with a 1911 pistol without modifications. Bradd's wanting a can for his Glock. What kind of reliability problems could we expect from using a can? As was mentioned, the SWR site is screwed up. How much do their cans cost? How do they attach to the barrel (i.e. quick-detatch)? Will we (me w/ a 1911 and Bradd w/his Glock) be able to see our sights over these various cans? I thought the H&K pistol was designed with tall sights specifically to clear a can. |
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Boosters (nielson devices) are a linear piston with a spring wrapped around the piston. They allow gas to press the suppressor forward when the pistol is fired and take the weight of the suppressor off the barrel during cycleing allowing the handgun to cycle more freely with the larger, longer, heavier and more effective suppressors. As the suppressor is forced forward, the interior volume of the suppressor also increases (a nice plus). Non-boosted designs can put stress on the pistols locking lugs but most are designed to be light and short enough to eliminate this. A negative downside to the light weight and short length is that long suppressors are more efficient and in order to lighten these suppressors wall thickness is pretty thin and that usually promotes "pinging" the metalic noise heard through the body of the suppressor. The pistol will either function fine or it won't function at all. (no other problems) If you can get AAC to guarantee it to work 100% it should be fine. They know what their can will cycle on. The only other thing that can happen is in high use if the suppressor is not well matched to the firearm the lugs can be rounded slightly in about 25,000rds of use. That is heavy use though for a suppressor considering you don't really need to practice "quietly" all the time. This shouldn't be a big problem with Glock as they have very very hard barrels and slides and thus will take a lot of abuse to wear. 1911 is a different story. 1911's are very user friendly as far as weight goes, most suppressors will work fine even without boosters (like AAC's Eclipse and tactical) Sometimes you can find a dealer who will pass on dealer pricing to you and then the SWR can could be $675 or so, otherwise they will be $950. The suppressor threads on. No QD there. (I don't know of any QD .45 pistol suppressors on the market.) No the Glock has very low sights, you will probably have to add taller sights, a Dr optic in the rear dovetail, C-more sight, or a laser guide rod or M6/M6X. AAC has tall sights from LPA and they may have a tall set of Glock sights. Your 1911 will work fine only need slightly tall front sights a .200 front should work fine but a .250 would be better. |
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"... Some cool underwater suppressor footage." If you check that about about 1/3 of the way through the guy takes the suppressed pistol out of the water and fires and the pistol jams (FTF?). (my guess is the weight of the water prevented the barrel from operating freely.) He should have probably dumped the excess water by bringing it out muzzle down. I'm surprised you can even do that without taking the baffles out of the suppressor, afteral bullets don't normally fly very straight through water. |