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This a cool thread. I really do like the looks of the 1911. Tag.
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The original models do not have rails build in. They used a Surefire 310r or 610r with a extended/extra long slide stop in.
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Originally Posted By Jeremy2171:
Here is mine....I didn't do a straight copy as I'm a righty and didn't want the ambi-safety... I got small hands so the ext. slide stop is a must. I used the drop in beavertail as I am NOT dehorning a USGI frame for this. Other than that I think I've got it done....I do have a few PWS rear sights but I like the Novak more. Bar-sto bbl, shok buff, 18.5# spring all the other stuff is in there like its supposed to be. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jeremy2171/MEUSOC/MEUSOC001.jpg http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jeremy2171/MEUSOC/MEUSOC002.jpg Here it is with my late '80s rebuild M1911A1 clone on a sistema frame. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jeremy2171/MEUSOC/MEUSOC003.jpg Why not put the GI slide on the GI frame, and build the Sistema frame into a proper clone with the EB grip safety? My Variant 3 clone is going to be using a Sistema frame. ~Augee |
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Bump for a fantastic thread. Cheers!
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Could you measure the rear sights before you unload them?
Send me the link if you do put them on GB, I'd like a crack at one. |
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Did you want the measurements posted on here?
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Originally Posted By Jeremy2171:
Did you want the measurements posted on here? I'd say definitely. Dave Berryhill sent me the measurements for the authentic sights a while back, but I won't have access to those notes for a good while. They're unusually and surprisingly high, I believe he said they used the .213 Millett front sight and filed them to POI, rather than the .185 he was using. I know you said you weren't doing an exact clone and didn't want an ambi-safety, but if you're going to put it on the Sistema slide with the EB grip safety- the Caspian ambi looks pretty similar to the King's 201A. My "Variant 4" is pretty similar to yours, a "NM" marked Loaded Parked, with King's 201A. Was planning to swap out the ignition system and hammer with C&S parts, but the SA parts in it right now are working pretty good, no need to waste the money yet. It's more of a "lookalike" right now than a clone. Like I said, hopefully my Variant 3 (Berryhill's "Old Version") if I ever finish it will be a much more appropriate clone. ~Augee |
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Originally Posted By Jeremy2171:
Did you want the measurements posted on here? Yes. I also spoke with Berryhill and he did not recall the exact height, but were used in conjunction with a .225 Millet front. He also stated the nich was .125 wide on the PWS sights. |
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And these little things have caused me "numerous" PMs (sorry for not replying) I've just listed them on GB as I have NO clue on real world value.... http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jeremy2171/MEUSOC/MEUSOC005.jpg What kind of sights are those? Were they the ones that were used on the MEU(SOC) 1911? |
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I've been reading this thread since the beginning, and I'm finally tagging it so I can quit searching for it.
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Originally Posted By MattNificent:
i was checking out some pics and noticed that the thumb safety that comes on the RIA tacticals looks pretty close to a clark..as far as the thumb pad part extending all the way back..the actual serrations on the pad are different/not as wide, but beggars cant be choosers... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1253.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1250.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1207.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1253.jpg i wonder if there is any way to get a hold of just the safety? Is it just me or is your sear pin drifted out a bit? |
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Originally Posted By meestermurphy:
Originally Posted By MattNificent:
i was checking out some pics and noticed that the thumb safety that comes on the RIA tacticals looks pretty close to a clark..as far as the thumb pad part extending all the way back..the actual serrations on the pad are different/not as wide, but beggars cant be choosers... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1253.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1250.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1207.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/sv1cec/reviews/RIATactical/smallimages/IMG_1253.jpg i wonder if there is any way to get a hold of just the safety? Is it just me or is your sear pin drifted out a bit? not my gun or pics, but thats how the right side of the safety is retained, by a groove in the sear pin... |
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Originally Posted By OlKev:
Caspian has an ambi safety a lot like a Clark http://www.caspianarms.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/R161ABT.jpg yeah its similar too.. |
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King's not Clark. Earlier MEUSOC pistol had King's Gun Works ambi thumb safety and Clark beavertail grip safety.
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Originally Posted By mlin:
King's not Clark. Earlier MEUSOC pistol had King's Gun Works ambi thumb safety and Clark beavertail grip safety. you are correct sir, i was looking at my clark grip safety at the time..ill change it.. |
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if you are looking for a Kings lookalike, the Kimber is pretty similar
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Originally Posted By mlin:
King's not Clark. Earlier MEUSOC pistol had King's Gun Works ambi thumb safety and Clark beavertail grip safety. You're right. I was typing Clark and thinking King. At one time Clark had the last remaining King safeties around. |
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"Just like every serial killer already knows, eventually fantasy does not do it for you anymore"
I have to return some video tapes. |
does anyone have an alternative to the long gone millett sights?
i loved them on my commander but obviously took too long to get them on any other gun thanks for any ideas. michael |
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Originally Posted By xdmikey:
does anyone have an alternative to the long gone millett sights? i loved them on my commander but obviously took too long to get them on any other gun thanks for any ideas. michael I've considered re-contouring an over sized Novaks front site, paired with a Harrison retro rear site. |
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if you have any pics/links to this i'd be happy to reciprocate by emailing you pics(feel free to post)of my commander's millet sight set up.
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Originally Posted By xdmikey:
if you have any pics/links to this i'd be happy to reciprocate by emailing you pics(feel free to post)of my commander's millet sight set up. this is the retro sight http://shop.harrisoncustom.com/products/114-hd-003-retro-rear-sight.aspx |
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way cool!
thnks Matt |
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Originally Posted By xdmikey:
way cool! thnks Matt no prob |
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That's the pic from the old usmc.mil fact file page. Might have been printed in Tom Clancy's MEU book as well.
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Originally Posted By Scooter1942:
I've been following this thread for a bit and while I never thought I'd actually go to the trouble to put together a variant like this. However, a couple of weeks ago I found a really good deal on a Springfield Loaded and immediately started making some changes. So far, I've added Pachmeyer grips with Colt logo (found them used at the gun show for cheap). Wilson Combat Magazine Changed the mainspring housing with a Caspian serrated flat with lanyard loop Went with a Caspian ambi mag release since the King's in unobtainium Novak sights were already installed. Grip safety, trigger and hammer are factory Springfield and likely to stay that way. The one piece guide rod might get changed out for surplus GI parts, but I might wait on that. I was essentially modeling off of this pistol based on the slide serrations, sights, etc.: http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/scooter1942/34.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/scooter1942/image003.jpg And this is what I have so far: http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/scooter1942/MEU1.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/scooter1942/MEU2.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/scooter1942/MEU3.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/scooter1942/MEU4.jpg i assume you meant caspian ambi safety, but niiice clone! |
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Do you have a USN serial number and how did you get that one? |
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Originally Posted By USMC_Grunt:
Do you have a USN serial number and how did you get that one? DING!DING!DING! WE HAVE A WINNER! Good eye! PHOTOSHOP ...some people are satisfied with simply erasing their serial number. Why not change it...and erase it at the same time? |
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Phase 1 complete. Just waiting on my bar-sto match barrel.
http://www.readycitizen.com/gallery/meusoc45/meusoc45_phase1.jpg |
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Excellent pics. The new parkerized Loadeds are really great pistols - I've been very pleased with mine. It has proven accurate and reliable.
I'm surprised that Springfield just doesn't offer the Loaded with a GI recoil assembly and Pachmayr grips... |
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Those two items as well as the mainspring housing, beavertail grip safety, wide-ambidextrous thumb safety, barrel and various "custom" springs are essentially the only differences from the springfield 1911-a1 loaded version and the MEU(SOC).45. Its definitely a great model to start with if you're looking to build one.
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Originally Posted By krpind:
Whatever happened to eating his ass out in the Principal's office and then laughing your ass off as soon as he was gone and admitting that he got us good. |
Nice picture. Looks like a v2 or v3 (mid to late 90's versions) with the pre-novac sights and serrations only on the rear of the slide.
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Hobbs-very nice pictures and info. My time in was form 89-01 so most of the newer designations and organizational structure we didn't have back then. I was in a DA platoon with Force, used that knowledge and experience to build and soon to complete my MEU(SOC).45. I really like the Kimber as well, don't get me wrong. I just have a preferential bias towards the modified Springfield 1911
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My boss was a 1st Recon Marine Alpha Company out of Camp Pendleton from the early 1990's until early 2000's. He said his 1911 started out as a complete USGI pistol rebuilt by the armorers in Quantico. When it went back to be rebuilt again it came back with the same USGI frame but a Kimber slide. He said all the pistols varied and no two were alike except for sights, safeties and barrels. Some had Caspian slides, others had Springfield or USGI like we have seen in some pictures. He also said they all ran shock buffs (also mentioned) and the Pacmeyer grips. He stated they did not use any light rails until later in his career. They were removable and would depend more on the mission description if they decided to run them. He did complain about the rails being "junk" so many did not run lights because "we had lights on the M4's and PEQ 2's" (His words) "so we didn't need one on our pistol. If we ended up having to pull our pistol then the last or your worries was the ability to illuminate the target". He is going to contact one of his friends that is still in service to see what info he can dig up for me about the current versions in that particular unit. I'll post it when i know more. It may or may not help add any additional info that has already been posted, but its nice to get real info from the guys that actually use them.
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I don't remember seeing kimber or caspian parts but it's highly likely since the armorer's were tops at getting and using parts from anywhere. The pistol lights we had were crap, i agree but we did have to night qualify with them and other styles/positions like utilizing a hand held flashlight, gas masks, etc. There was always talk of getting a .45 ACP MP5 created, but that never amounted to anything but talk so we always used the MP5N within DA platoons.
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Wow, thanks for sharing hobbs! I would definately like seeing how the gun looks now with the light on it.
I have thought about turning my NM Springer MilSpec into one of these clones....but I'm not sure. May get a Loaded and try with that. Nice Kimber! |
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Originally Posted By bogus:
My boss was a 1st Recon Marine Alpha Company out of Camp Pendleton from the early 1990's until early 2000's. He said his 1911 started out as a complete USGI pistol rebuilt by the armorers in Quantico. When it went back to be rebuilt again it came back with the same USGI frame but a Kimber slide. He said all the pistols varied and no two were alike except for sights, safeties and barrels. Some had Caspian slides, others had Springfield or USGI like we have seen in some pictures. He also said they all ran shock buffs (also mentioned) and the Pacmeyer grips. He stated they did not use any light rails until later in his career. They were removable and would depend more on the mission description if they decided to run them. He did complain about the rails being "junk" so many did not run lights because "we had lights on the M4's and PEQ 2's" (His words) "so we didn't need one on our pistol. If we ended up having to pull our pistol then the last or your worries was the ability to illuminate the target". He is going to contact one of his friends that is still in service to see what info he can dig up for me about the current versions in that particular unit. I'll post it when i know more. It may or may not help add any additional info that has already been posted, but its nice to get real info from the guys that actually use them. Ill be interested in hearing what they are doing now. Also could you get some pics as well that would also be of big help. |
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Originally Posted By asiparks:
pics of mine again, just because..... http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100426/IMG_3368/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100426/IMG_3364_2/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100426/IMG_3379/web.jpg that beavertail looks fantastic Berryhill? |
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Originally Posted By eternal24k:
that beavertail looks fantastic Berryhill? Rodgers, I believe. I'm the 3rd lucky owner |
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