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1/10/2009 7:38:30 AM EDT
Just wondering how the CCW community feels about the Judge for a carry gun. Seems like it might be a bit large but I like the idea of a .410 for PD. What do you all think
1/10/2009 8:00:16 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
Just wondering how the CCW community feels about the Judge for a carry gun. Seems like it might be a bit large but I like the idea of a .410 for PD. What do you all think


Let the Box O Truth help you make up your mind.

Personally, I wouldn't get a Taurus product.  Their record for quality is spotty and their Customer Service is universally known to be just plain bad.

As for the gun, The 45 Colt round would do fine as a defensive round.  .410 is a poor choice.

The gun is too damn big to lug around all day.  Far better choices for concealed carry.
1/10/2009 8:18:09 AM EDT
[#2]
My cousin has one for having fun with and thats about it. I dont see carrying it beeing a real option. FWIW his broke after only a few mixed rounds went through it. Something in the cylinder and it would not latch closed. He took it back to the dealer he got it from and they sent it out to get fixed. It didnt take too long and it seems to be working good now. He hasnt put as many rounds through it since he got it back so only time will tell if it will hold up this time.
1/10/2009 11:13:01 AM EDT
[#3]
read this: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=68865


decide for yourself

my opinion: impractical and NOT my 1st choice for a self-defense firearm...even in the woods against snakes or bears
1/10/2009 11:13:18 AM EDT
[#4]
read this: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=68865


decide for yourself

my opinion: impractical and NOT my 1st choice for a self-defense firearm...even in the woods against snakes or bears
1/10/2009 11:24:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Don't waste your money.  Buy a Taurus (or other brand) .357 instead.
1/10/2009 2:42:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Just wondering how the CCW community feels about the Judge for a carry gun. Seems like it might be a bit large but I like the idea of a .410 for PD. What do you all think


Do not want.
1/10/2009 2:50:12 PM EDT
[#7]
I will not buy one b/c Old_Painless proved that it is not a good carry weapon.  It is just a gimmick to me.
1/10/2009 2:59:13 PM EDT
[#8]
Get some of these and a real handgun.

1/10/2009 3:58:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Not a good carry gun.
1/10/2009 7:35:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Don't waste your money.  Buy a Taurus (or other brand) .357 instead.


Good call.
1/11/2009 9:30:47 AM EDT
[#11]
It's an interesting concept, but it fails in the real world.  .410 shotgun is a bad self defense round no matter how it's loaded and as a 45 Colt revolver it's way bigger than needed.  And, it's a Taurus.  About the only use I could see for it is as a sidearm for a farmer/rancher who has a need of close range varmint/pest control and self defense.  And even then I'd question if a 44 mag revolver with the first one or two chambers filled with shot capsules wouldn't be better.  I can also see a limited niche for it as an anti car jacking gun, but I'd probably prefer a smaller, big bore 44 special revolver, at least it could be put in a pocket for out of car use.  The only person I know that could pocket the Judge is Haystacks Calhoun.
1/11/2009 6:47:19 PM EDT
[#12]
Yes, I'd say it's more of a "fun gun" with no real practical purpose.
1/12/2009 10:12:44 AM EDT
[#13]
Yeah we generally try to shoot clay pigeons with it, just for S&G.
1/12/2009 10:19:00 AM EDT
[#14]
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Get some of these and a real handgun.

http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=648570


If you are afraid of being attacked by snakes or varmints...

Otherwise, some bonded defensive ammo and a reliable gun platform is always preferable.

I love how the pictures in the ad have a "shoot n see" target.  The .410 makes a huge neon marked hole in the paper versus the 2 or 3 small handgun holes in the other target.  Extremely effective!!!  (if you are shooting at paper)
1/22/2009 9:16:55 AM EDT
[#15]
Sooooo, a .410 000buck at 1300fps isn't a viable defense handgun??
1/22/2009 9:49:33 AM EDT
[#16]
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Sooooo, a .410 000buck at 1300fps isn't a viable defense handgun??


1300fps our of what barrel?  I doubt you would see that from a judge.
1/22/2009 10:15:10 AM EDT
[#17]
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Quoted:
Sooooo, a .410 000buck at 1300fps isn't a viable defense handgun??


1300fps our of what barrel?  I doubt you would see that from a judge.


.410 blows out of a longer 'shotgun' barrel... out of a pistol!?
pass.
1/22/2009 2:48:17 PM EDT
[#18]


Quoted:

Sooooo, a .410 000buck at 1300fps isn't a viable defense handgun??
Tell me, exactly which maker produces 000 rounds that hit anywhere near 1300 fps from a Judge?



1/23/2009 6:20:18 AM EDT
[#19]
Winchester per Shooting Times.
1/23/2009 6:33:05 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I will not buy one b/c Old_Painless proved that it is not a good carry weapon.  It is just a gimmick to me.


Yep, The Box O' Truth put this issue to rest; the Judge is a fun gun rather than a practical choice for a carry gun.
1/23/2009 7:23:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sooooo, a .410 000buck at 1300fps isn't a viable defense handgun??
Tell me, exactly which maker produces 000 rounds that hit anywhere near 1300 fps from a Judge?



Or penetrate 10+ inches of ballistic gel through clothing...
1/23/2009 8:35:33 AM EDT
[#22]
But, but...  Guns N Ammo Television said it was "the ultimate self defense handgun"!  Why would they tell us that if it weren't true?*






*Because cash is king
1/23/2009 9:28:25 AM EDT
[#23]
Gotta love the internet!!

Don't own one, nor plan on it. But to say that it can't be a viable defense handgun at its intended purpose (close range-4 to 10ft-not yards as tested) is wrong. It might not be as good as other options, but it still would be a choice.


1/23/2009 9:53:11 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Gotta love the internet!!

Don't own one, nor plan on it. But to say that it can't be a viable defense handgun at its intended purpose (close range-4 to 10ft-not yards as tested) is wrong. It might not be as good as other options, but it still would be a choice.





With that mentality why don't we include sharp sticks into the mix also? If it is not up to par with other options, why would one even consider it?
1/23/2009 10:02:00 AM EDT
[#25]
Then everything under a 12-ga is useless, is that your point????
1/23/2009 10:03:52 AM EDT
[#26]
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Then everything under a 12-ga is useless, is that your point????


Yeah because a shotgun and a handgun are the same tool.

1/23/2009 10:07:14 AM EDT
[#27]
Sharp stick < Daisy Red Rider < OC spray < Taurus Judge < .357 mag

Since the Judge and a .357 mag can be had for the same price, why go with the inferior (and heavier) option?
1/23/2009 2:29:47 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Gotta love the internet!!

Don't own one, nor plan on it. But to say that it can't be a viable defense handgun at its intended purpose (close range-4 to 10ft-not yards as tested) is wrong. It might not be as good as other options, but it still would be a choice.




The OP didn't ask about the viability of the Judge as a self defense gun; he asked what we thought of it as a carry gun.

He also said that he liked the idea of .410 as a defensive round and Old_Painless demonstrated that it was a very poor choice as such.

In an emergency situation most any handgun can be used in self defense and the Judge, being a .45, is certainly among them.

But those here who know what they are talking about already answered the OP's question.