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10/16/2012 4:42:04 PM EDT
I just bought a LW Commander 3 weeks ago and love it except for the trigger pull. I was getting anything from 6.5 to 8.5lbs and it wasn't consistent. At 15ft I was barely able to keep my shots in a 8" group. So I ordered a Cylinder & Slide Tactical II drop in trigger kit and a Brownells Trigger Pull Reduction Kit. I installed the kits last night.

The Cylinder & Slide kit is great, the hammer, sear, and disconnector are all very well made and finished. The kit also included a 18lb hammer spring and a new sear spring. The Brownells trigger pull reduction kit has series 80 parts that are moly-disulfide coated, very slick. It came with a new firing pin plunger, trigger lever, plunger lever, hammer and sear pins. I don't know how much it helps but it seems to have taken a lot of the slop out of the trigger pull. Can't hurt right!!!!!

I've done trigger jobs to my last 5 1911s but this was my first Colt Series 80. The hardest part for me was getting the Series 80 trigger lever to line up with the sear and disconnector so I could get the pin thru all three. After that the rest was a breeze.

I got it all back together and measured the trigger pull with my Lyman Digital Trigger Pull Gauge. It measured 4lb 5oz to 4lb 12oz. So I did some adjustment to the sear spring and retested it. This time I got 3lbs 15oz to 4lbs 2oz. I can live with a 3oz variance!!   There is very slight take up, very minute creep, then a crisp break. The original thumb safety worked just fine and didn't need any fitting. All the safety checks worked fine, no adjustments needed to make it safe. I may take the series 80 stuff out down the road but I'm leaving it in for the present time. I went to the gun range today and it shoots really nice now.  Now I have the Colt that I new it should be!!

I have always wondered how "drop in" the Cylinder & Slide trigger kits were. At least with the LW Commander I didn't have to refit any of the other parts to make the kit work safely
10/16/2012 5:29:15 PM EDT
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I've done trigger jobs to my last 5 1911s but this was my first Colt Series 80. The hardest part for me was getting the Series 80 trigger lever to line up with the sear and disconnector so I could get the pin thru all three. After that the rest was a breeze.


You can put a dab of grease on the trigger lever and stick it to the sear when reassembling.  Clip a short length of Q-tip shaft with wire cutters and it will work pretty well as a slave pin to keep the assembly together while you maneuver it into the frame.
10/16/2012 11:09:03 PM EDT
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I've done trigger jobs to my last 5 1911s but this was my first Colt Series 80. The hardest part for me was getting the Series 80 trigger lever to line up with the sear and disconnector so I could get the pin thru all three. After that the rest was a breeze.


You can put a dab of grease on the trigger lever and stick it to the sear when reassembling.  Clip a short length of Q-tip shaft with wire cutters and it will work pretty well as a slave pin to keep the assembly together while you maneuver it into the frame.


Thanks for the tips, they'll come in handy the next time I have to disassemble it!
10/17/2012 5:59:55 AM EDT
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even with a hoorid trigger 8 inches at 15 feet suggests fundamental errors in trigger control and sight alignment. with 7-8 pound trigger rattle trap GI 1911's it should be no problem (even given the guns miniscule sights) getting 5 inch groups at 25 yards. You have bigger problems than heavy triggers on the gun
10/18/2012 3:14:07 AM EDT
[#4]
Congrats on the LW Commander, I just bought one yesterday myself after looking over a bunch of other brands and deciding to stick with Colt. I ordered some W/C B/P goodies last night including a hammer, sear, disco, and springs. I have an EB sear angle cutting jig and I'm looking to remove the creep your talking about, and drop my pull down to 3.5-3.75. I don't mind a little bit of a heavy trigger but the creep I can not deal with. Like you stated this Colt is very nice and only needs the trigger addressed and maybe? a match barrel bushing out front.
10/18/2012 5:46:49 AM EDT
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even with a hoorid trigger 8 inches at 15 feet suggests fundamental errors in trigger control and sight alignment. with 7-8 pound trigger rattle trap GI 1911's it should be no problem (even given the guns miniscule sights) getting 5 inch groups at 25 yards. You have bigger problems than heavy triggers on the gun







Congrats on the LW Commander. I always keep my eye open for one but they're sold before they hit the shops
10/18/2012 5:03:33 PM EDT
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Every time I buy a 1911, I figure on doing a trigger job on it. It's just a fact of life for me.  I really like 4lb triggers. With my STI Ranger II I can put all my shots into a 3-4in circle at 15 ft. I can now do the same with the Colt!!!!
10/18/2012 5:23:56 PM EDT
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Every time I buy a 1911, I figure on doing a trigger job on it. It's just a fact of life for me.  I really like 4lb triggers. With my STI Ranger II I can put all my shots into a 3-4in circle at 15 ft. I can now do the same with the Colt!!!!


How bout a pretty gun picture
10/18/2012 6:35:45 PM EDT
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Every time I buy a 1911, I figure on doing a trigger job on it. It's just a fact of life for me.  I really like 4lb triggers. With my STI Ranger II I can put all my shots into a 3-4in circle at 15 ft. I can now do the same with the Colt!!!!


How bout a pretty gun picture


Ask and ye shall receive!!!!!!