Posted: 1/14/2010 1:16:34 PM EDT
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Might have been discussed, I did search....
I carry one of many lights with me at all times from a Streamlight Micro and Fenix L1D at work, to a Fenix PD30 and L2D at night. I would like to practice drawing/holding/using the lights while drawing/using my concealled handgun (G27 &/or G23). Any websites out there to show me how to hold the light, what to attach for more secure grip? Input from you folks? I appreciate the info... |
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A very good basic start/overview (IMO) from a VERY knowledgeable fellow: http://www.gggaz.com/index.php?id=193 |
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A very good basic start/overview (IMO) from a VERY knowledgeable fellow: http://www.gggaz.com/index.php?id=193 Good website there! |
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Thanks Hardshell...Clint has the knowledge that is for sure...Never met him but he's good friends with the folks at Oregon Firearms Academy. I've trained there several times. They speak highly of Clint.
I read it quickly and I'll re-read it again later. Think I'll do a little lo-light house check tonight...sans-ammo... 
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not too many sites i can refer too...your best bet is to take a figthing pistol class that offers night shoots
http://www.nrapublications.org/si/HB_handgun.html http://www.surefire.com/articles-handheld_techniques http://www.nrapublications.org/si/HB_longgun.html there was another decent link i found on an airsoft site, but i cant find it now... |
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But.. racing stripes.. slide.. Nope...those are tatoo's (SP?) for Glocks, saw them today searching for a holster...and no, I would not put those on my gun. Bet he's getting paid to do it though... Negative and negative. The "flame guns" were a request from Mr. Smith to the Springfield Custom Shop. Apparently he likes them...and you don't have to. Springfield XD with flames |
| I wonder if flashlight technique has caught up to flashlight technology and what a homeowner might need. A 300+ lumen LED flashlight will light up an entire room just setting it on a table pointing at a wall or ceiling. My 630 lumen will light it up pretty danged bright. You could take up a defensive position away from your light if you wished. I've always thought it was pretty dumb to go wandering around the house like a target waiting to get shot/stabbed/whacked over the head. As long as you can defend your family from a nice barricaded position, you can just set the light down, take up your defensive position, and wait for calvary. Of course if your military or LEO it's a different story but presumably your organization is providing you training. |
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Quoted: I've always thought it was pretty dumb to go wandering around the house like a target waiting to get shot/stabbed/whacked over the head. As long as you can defend your family from a nice barricaded position, you can just set the light down, take up your defensive position, and wait for calvary. Not to be argumentative, but that doesn't necessarily make sense. I know I'm not alone in living in rural America, in a small county where law enforcement is spread thin. On a good night, there may be 2 or 3 deputies to handle an entire county. That's doing darn good compared to some weatern regions, too. Is a person supposed to hole up in the bedroom and call 911 every time there's a noise? Being a law enforcement dispatcher, I know what people who do this are called: nuts. Besides that, a law enforcement response could very well be 20 minutes or more away, depending on what's going on elsewhere in the county and where it's happened. Example: recently, I was awakened on one of my (rare) times of sleeping during dark hours to a horrible noise at the living room window. It literally sounded like somebody trying to remove the screen and push the window in. Enough like it that I made my way to the living room with M&P in hand with TLR-1 attached. I sliced the pie into the living room and illuminated the window to find...a stray cat climbing the screen and making one hell of a racket. Just providing an illustration of why holing up in the bedroom and calling 911 isn't necessarily the best plan. I could go on and on about it, but I just wanted to give a little reason with a dissenting opinion. |
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Not to be argumentative, but that doesn't necessarily make sense. I know I'm not alone in living in rural America, in a small county where law enforcement is spread thin. On a good night, there may be 2 or 3 deputies to handle an entire county. That's doing darn good compared to some weatern regions, too. I live in a major city and its typical for you to be on hold for 5 minutes or more when you call 911... forget about "response time" Quoted:
Is a person supposed to hole up in the bedroom and call 911 every time there's a noise? Being a law enforcement dispatcher, I know what people who do this are called: nuts. Besides that, a law enforcement response could very well be 20 minutes or more away, depending on what's going on elsewhere in the county and where it's happened. Example: recently, I was awakened on one of my (rare) times of sleeping during dark hours to a horrible noise at the living room window. It literally sounded like somebody trying to remove the screen and push the window in. Enough like it that I made my way to the living room with M&P in hand with TLR-1 attached. I sliced the pie into the living room and illuminated the window to find...a stray cat climbing the screen and making one hell of a racket. Exactly! I always read about how people claim they will "setup a defensive position" when they hear a noise at night and it blows my mind. How do you actually know there is someone in your house who intends to do you harm? There have been multiple occasions where I've heard a noise that woke me up in the middle of the night and it has never actually been an intruder. Its not practical for you to simply call 911 the second you hear a noise. |
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You may have a good grip on your flashlight when your hands are warm and dry, but not so when they're frozen and even worse wet and frozen. Your hands may very well become sweaty/clamy after engaging in an adrenaline rush situation.
Skate tape might be advisable to increase grip traction. Often times in Alaska, going outside for only a minute without gloves can cause your fingers to go numb, and if you drop your light in the snow, your hands will then become wet when you pick it back up. If you want a better option than tape, you can go to any home improvement store and pick up a can of textured spray paint which is normally used to increase traction on porch steps, ladders, etc. It should have a grainy/sandpaper feel. As with anything else that would be painted, you should scuff the surface of the flashlight with sandaper... 200-300 grit should be fine. Then wipe it down with a quickly evaporating liquid like isapropyl alcohol or other mineral spirits. Follow the directions on the can. Afterward, it should feel like you wrapped sandpaper around the flashight. If you did a good job, it should look good and last a long time before needing another coat. Another plus of doing it this way, is that spray can will lasth you a long time! If I remember correctly, the most common and easiest method of holding a flashight is with your wrists locked together, off-hand under your shooting hand. The light should point naturally where you are aiming. |
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I've always thought it was pretty dumb to go wandering around the house like a target waiting to get shot/stabbed/whacked over the head. As long as you can defend your family from a nice barricaded position, you can just set the light down, take up your defensive position, and wait for calvary. Not to be argumentative, but that doesn't necessarily make sense. I know I'm not alone in living in rural America, in a small county where law enforcement is spread thin. On a good night, there may be 2 or 3 deputies to handle an entire county. That's doing darn good compared to some weatern regions, too. Is a person supposed to hole up in the bedroom and call 911 every time there's a noise? Being a law enforcement dispatcher, I know what people who do this are called: nuts. Besides that, a law enforcement response could very well be 20 minutes or more away, depending on what's going on elsewhere in the county and where it's happened. Example: recently, I was awakened on one of my (rare) times of sleeping during dark hours to a horrible noise at the living room window. It literally sounded like somebody trying to remove the screen and push the window in. Enough like it that I made my way to the living room with M&P in hand with TLR-1 attached. I sliced the pie into the living room and illuminated the window to find...a stray cat climbing the screen and making one hell of a racket. Just providing an illustration of why holing up in the bedroom and calling 911 isn't necessarily the best plan. I could go on and on about it, but I just wanted to give a little reason with a dissenting opinion. Some folks enjoy arguing, some prefer to explore the possibilities. Your participation around here is certainly historically the latter. I live in semi-country on a few acres. Since I'm close to their shop and coffee pot, I'm thinking the sheriff will be there in 20-30 minutes. If I'm barricaded (a simple matter of guarding a 30ft catwalk in my house) the bad guys are not going to hang around that long. They will either leave with whatever booty they can carry (my logical preference though it bothers my sense of justice) or they will die in a hail of 00 buck trying to come upstairs to cross that catwalk. So, how do I know it's bad guys and it's time to actually call 911? The cat may wake me up by knocking something over but the follow on sounds the cat makes (like diving for cover figuring she's going to be fed to the dogs) are pretty normal for our house. I don't think even one person trying to be quiet in my house at night will be able to be silent. Especially if they are trying to find something valuable to stick in a bag. More than one person will make a relative racket. You have to be patient enough to use your ears. If I hear people downstairs, I'm calling 911. OK.. so what if you have kids or other family and you have to figure out if it's them making the noise or someone that isn't supposed to be there. Seems to me in that situation you have no choice but to use a flashlight and not a gun mounted one since you don't want to be aiming your pistol at your 12 yr old. You have to make positive target ID and a light is the only way I know to do that. Better have a good plan if you're going to go hunting though. You have make a positive ID, the bad guy doesn't. Final topic is outside. For one thing, I'm not going to shoot someone without warning outside like I would inside. They would be a threat, but I don't have the legal grounds to shoot him unless he threatens with deadly force. I do have to check out disturbances/noises outside. I need to know if I've got a black bear, coyotes, or something dangerous like a trespasser. I have a plan for that and the right equipment but if it really is a trespasser, it's dangerous business. The bad guy simply has too many options for an ambush. Other than a very bright light (500 lumen +) and having a plan, not sure how to manage that one better. |
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Take a Low Light class.
You really have no idea how difficult or simple it can be until you have actually tried it with your chosen gear. ETA: And don't just think that wandering around the house is good enough. You need to try shooting with your gear, and doing it under stress. |