Posted: 4/18/2013 7:18:07 PM EDT
| What do you guys think of this pistol? I am looking at it for off duty carry. Thanks John |
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I bought a "First Edition" PPS sight unseen when they first came out and have never regretted it. Wonderfully flat pistol, Walther quality, strangely accurate for its size as noted above, and the various size back straps and magazines make it quite versatile. It is a double ugly little thing, but I would never part with mine.
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I took mine out for the first time last week, after a quick cleaning/lube. Extremely controllable - even oddly so for such a small pistol. Decent trigger reset. And the pistol just seems to want to point at the target - very controllable in rapid-fire. I ran 100 rounds of different types of ammo through it, from Winchester NATO FMJ, to Gold Dots, to Golden Sabers, to misc. 'who knows what 115gr to 147gr' I had laying around, and it ate them all without a hiccup. The only ammo I haven't tested it with is some subsonic ammo I have. No real reason to test that. The gun fits my hand very well, points naturally, and sits very unobtrusively in my kydex OWB holster. Definitely accurate, although mine shoots a bit low and right - nothing that can't be fixed. Three-dot sights are good. The mag release is..........  The worst part about it is that you MUST take your shooting hand's middle finger off the grip (or at least loosen it enough so that the release can lever downwards.) Some people claim they use that middle finger to operate the lever. I can't make that work, as it means I've almost completely released my grip on the gun.I'm doing a bunch of slow drills with an empty gun to train my brain to completely alter the way I do a mag change. I think I've developed a method that will work for me - unfortunately it requires the use of both hands. I just need to drill it enough to overcome my old programming. I guess that means I plan to keep the gun. With a standard button mag release this would be close to the perfect carry gun IMO. As it is, it's better than anything I've tried in the past. And before the Glockers chime in... I have three, and they are too fat. The PPS is a slim striker-fired pistol, a feature I really, really like. |
| I've had one for almost a year and I'm always surprised how often I take mine out to the range. With the 8 round mags I get a grip like a full size gun, at 7 yeards I'm every bit as accurate as my Beretta 92. With the 7 round mag I can still get my pinky securely on the grip. I don't have a 6 rounderers but I can tell I'd only have 4 fingers for grip, like a mouse gun. Recoil is really soft, no more than a full frame 9mm. I also have a Kahr PM45 and while the Kahr slide is a little shorter the PPS is much easier to conceal. PPS also has a great trigger pull, much lighter than the Kahr. I haven't shot any +p or self defense ammo, just FMJ 115 gr, but I've ran Federal, WWB, Magtech, Wolf steel and Monarch steel & brass thru it (along with several makes of bulk reload 9mm) and it's never failed. |
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I also have a PM45, and the triggers on the two guns are very different. The Kahr's trigger is: "Pull (smooth) Pull (smooth) Pull (OK when is the shot going to go off... "BANG!") The PPS is trigger is (long-ish smooth takeup, definite stop, reasonable pressure..."BANG!") A bit rougher than the Kahr, but WAY more predictable. |
| Great for a CC gun, mine has been really reliable and surprisingly accurate for such a small gun. A bit too big for cargo pocket carry but disappears well under just a t shirt. The only complaint is the mag release is different than my other pistols. Going for a quick mag change finds me pressing really hard into the frame rather than the way the release works. |
| I've had one for several years and carried it as my primary CC gun for a couple of years. I carry it with the flush fit magazine and it disappears under a loose shirt. As others have said the reset it positive and the trigger pull is pretty nice. My only complaint is the mag release and the slide is somewhat thick top to bottom. Mine is the .40 cal version and the recoil is very manageable. The only other pistol I carry more often is my P938. |
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I also have a PM45, and the triggers on the two guns are very different. The Kahr's trigger is: "Pull (smooth) Pull (smooth) Pull (OK when is the shot going to go off... "BANG!") The PPS is trigger is (long-ish smooth takeup, definite stop, reasonable pressure..."BANG!") A bit rougher than the Kahr, but WAY more predictable. That's an accurate description, I'm fairly accurate with the Kahr at 7 yards for such a small pistol but I don't feel like I have the control that I have with my PPS. I've actually been meaning to shoot both side by side to see which one I shoot better, but the PPS is always more FUN to shoot. The Kahr doesn't get nearly the range time my PPS does, and over time that means better familiarity. I'm not big on speed drills, but I've gotten into the habit of using my middle finger on the paddle release and I can swap mags easier than most other pistols. The HK setup is still my favorite. |
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I can't say enough great things about mine. By far, my favorite CCW.
Apparently, even some Navy Seals carry them as CCW's, and they love them. Like most German guns, the mags are on the expensive side, but I've been able to find them at more reasonable prices by looking around. |
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Love mine.
Love the paddle style mag release as well. I will second all the positive comments about it's accuracy, reliability, and shootability. Mine eats 147 HSTs without issue and places them quite accurately too. And with the eight round mag it's even a fun range gun. |
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It's one of the only polymer pistols that is left in my safe and that's due to it being an absolute gem of a CCW pistol.
Can't say much more than what's already been posted here other than a lot of people tend to ride the slide stop and have issues with the slide locking back on the last round, myself included. Regardless of that, it's still a wonderful pistol and one I'd highly recommend for a CCW pistol. |