Was the Glock 44 a Miss? (Page 2 of 3)
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Originally Posted By Harv24: Yet Taurus cracked the code.... I tried the Nelson Slide, Junk, never worked, got rid of it and picked up a TX 22. Its what the G44 should have been all along. The TX22 was likely designed from the ground up to be how it is, skeletonized slide included. The G44 was designed to be a G19 clone in .22 so holsters, lights, performance, etc would be identical. Even aftermarket G19 triggers work in the G44 so long as you swap the ejector. Now do I wish that someone would make a G44 slide that functions with an optic, preferably MOS cut? Absolutely. Am I unhappy with mine? Nope. Other than the optic cut, it's a 1:1 of my carry gun for cheap practice. Edit: interestingly enough, Jagerwerks lists the MOS cut for G44 on their site. I might send them an email about that. |
| Glock dropped the ball with the gun by not making it the size of a 17 or a 34. With clubs holding steel challenge matches, shooters can compete in rimfire and then carry optics with basically with the same gun. Now that sig and taurus mastered the mags that hold more than 10rds, there's no reason glock can't make hi cap mags |
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My G44 has been great and eats literally everything I put in it. When I added a red dot using a Strike Industries mount it went to crap, so I put it back to stock and it has been great ever since. I'd like to put on a Nelson Machine slide on it, but I have a TX-22 with a dot, a Ruger MK III Hunter with a dot and a Ruger MK IV 22/45 with a dot, so it's not high on my priorities list. But yes, Glock missed the mark when they did the G44. Polymer slide you cannot put a dot on and 10 round mags. That said, I wish they would make a G42 sized .22 LR. I would snap that up in a hot minute. |
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Originally Posted By NorthPolar: The TX22 was likely designed from the ground up to be how it is, skeletonized slide included. The G44 was designed to be a G19 clone in .22 so holsters, lights, performance, etc would be identical. Even aftermarket G19 triggers work in the G44 so long as you swap the ejector. Now do I wish that someone would make a G44 slide that functions with an optic, preferably MOS cut? Absolutely. Am I unhappy with mine? Nope. Other than the optic cut, it's a 1:1 of my carry gun for cheap practice. Edit: interestingly enough, Jagerwerks lists the MOS cut for G44 on their site. I might send them an email about that. I think i looked into the cut slide thing, and it has pretty much been decided a non started. People seem to be having trouble with their AA red dot slides, and it looks like the weight of the optic throws the reliability out the window. Ebay has tons of chinese knock off ALG 6 second mounts for ~$50. And now that alg no longer sells theirs, there isn't really a moral question about buying a knock off. I've seen a few people do it now, and everyone seems happy with it. Keeps the reliability up. I haven't gotten around to ordering one yet, but thats been my plan. |
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I got an AA kit for Glock 17 and minus some user induced issues, now rectified, it has been completely reliable with all ammo. For those of you with an AA kit, the striker spring is proprietary. If you swap in a different spring (the AA springs are larger diameter than most Glock striker springs) then you will end up with light strikes caused by burrs forming on the striker and interfering with the plunger safety. The skinnier spring lets the striker not center itself in the channel; on firing it skims the plunger safety and creates a burr. Over time, the burr starts to interact with the plunger, causing light strikes. Also, if you take your AA striker assembly apart, there is a skinny end of the spring. The skinny end is where the cups go. Doing it backwards can also cause the burr / light strike issue. Ask me how I know all this. |
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Originally Posted By NorthPolar: My AA kit ran great after some tuning, but it doesn't work with the performance trigger. That's the only reason why I sold mine. Yeah, that was my observation as well, the AA kit seemed incompatible with GPT. I went the opposite route and ditched the GPT. Can't really understand why they would not be compatible; if the AA kit works with normal trigger, why not GPT? In terms of striker lug interaction, the sear is just shaped differently. With mine, in order for the trigger to reset, I had to keep the trigger held back while cycling the AA slide. With normal trigger you can dry fire, release the trigger, cycle the AA slide, and it will reset. Granted, 99% of the time while shooting the slide will be back in battery before you can think to release the trigger, but still, since it was acting funny I never tried to shoot it. Edit to add: Oh yeah, PSA: the AA kit is NOT drop safe with a Vex trigger shoe. The shoe takes up so much pre-travel that the plunger is ALWAYS engaged. At least with the G17.3 kit. |
| I tried to like mine…….., but I couldn’t mount a red dot on it, 10 round mag (I did mod one to hold 12), not as accurate as my Ruger MK II, III or MK IV, trigger was just ok, and I got a ton of crap to the face when shooting it suppressed. I sold mine after a little after a year, a miss IMO. |
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The 44 is hated here. And Ive found mine to be utterly reliable suppressed with all types of ammo. Even the subsonic rifle only ammo. But then again the best can Ive found for mine is the Sparrow. Which is also equally hated here. |
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Originally Posted By Redoubt99: The 44 is hated here. And Ive found mine to be utterly reliable suppressed with all types of ammo. Even the subsonic rifle only ammo. But then again the best can Ive found for mine is the Sparrow. Which is also equally hated here. I don’t get the hate my 22/45 sucks compared. I put reliability at the top of the list and the Glock runs very well. I took mine to 3k without cleaning or additional lube and it ran 99% |
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Originally Posted By Redoubt99: The 44 is hated here. And Ive found mine to be utterly reliable suppressed with all types of ammo. Even the subsonic rifle only ammo. But then again the best can Ive found for mine is the Sparrow. Which is also equally hated here. Its hated because its 10rd and no red dot. I like mine. I like my ruger more though. |
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From most of what I have seen and my limited experience shooting a friend’s they are pretty reliable and decent pistols. But at the end of the day I really prefer Ruger MK series or buck mark pistols. I truly believe that no one designs semiautomatic rimfire firearms quite as well as Ruger. The trick is to have someone else build them, VQ is my favorite. 
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I love my G44. Super reliable, easy to clean, shoots very well, provides realistic training. What goes unmentioned is that it's also super lightweight as a 'kit gun' / toss in a jacket or backpack pistol with some ammo. G44 w/ Mag + 50rd box of ammo is ~22oz, weight of an empty G19 with no mag. |
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Originally Posted By zoomergunguy: Love mine. using the OEM mags ive sunk 4k+ rounds with barely any malfunctions also dont use a semi auto loading 22lr as a defense weapon lmfao just get a bodyguard 2.0 or something centerfire Not everyone can run centerfire semi-autos. Elderly women in particular have real issues w/ pulling DA revolver triggers & racking slides. My late MIL couldn't reliably depress a S&W EZ grip safety her hands were so arthritic. Put her in a Ruger SR-22 w/ the long barrel, at least she could rack the slide after cocking the hammer. |
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Attached File I have not shot it yet. Covid, a murdered step-daughter, lymaphedema (not able to wear shoes), a fall with broken bones, wife having two major surgeries, a "mild" heart attack, a stent, and an upcoming heart valve replacement, and WTF next... have gotten in the way! But it looks pretty cool... ya think! ETA... I don't have a photo with the Surefire X300 Ultra mounted to the chassis |
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I thought about going with a DeltaPoint Micro at first. I was concerned about mounting it into a plastic slide body rear sight dovetail. Wondering if the plastic of the slide body would fail at some point. Between the RMR and the sight chassis, it cost more that the G44! The chassis was designed to use a SureFire X300U-A... what can I say. I try not to think about the total cost of this pistol, especially for a .22lr. |
So... I find comfort in the fact that if Trump has to work so hard to go to Heaven, then there is a shit load of Democrats that have no f-cking chance to go anywhere but HELL. Sometimes it is entirely appropriate to kill a fly with a sledge-hammer.
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Originally Posted By NorthPolar: My AA kit ran great after some tuning, but it doesn't work with the performance trigger. That's the only reason why I sold mine. 
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From a price/features/capacity standpoint, the G44 was absolutely a miss. Taurus of all companies spanked them with the TX-22. G44 = $380-$420 > 10rd capacity, no optics mount and the thread barrel is an additional cost. TX-22 = $280-$320 > 16rd capacity, Gen2 TORO model (or the comp model) are optics ready and they all come with a threaded barrel. As for reliability, I have a Gen1 TX-22 and a P322 and both have been 100% reliable. My bonus son has a G44 and he does on occasion have issues with it. If you just have to have a Glock then I guess but otherwise, there are plenty of better options out there IMO |
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The G44 is a miss when it comes to being able to mount an optic. But the G44 is very reliable. I stopped counting rounds fired through mine when I reached 20,000 rounds. If I had to guess, I would say at least half that number is while using the ProMag G44 magazines. The ones I have are just as reliable as the factory magazines. The videos showing the G44 being unreliable were mostly due to not loading the magazine correctly. The other issue was from using the cheapest bulk ammo they could find. |
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Originally Posted By HuntFishGunCar: Was planning on buying one to suppress and as a backup truck gun. Now some of the videos seem to say it is not so reliable. I thought it had some hiccups when initially released but my understanding is that it has a better track record than the Sig 322 at least. Is that not the case or should I just buy a MK IV? Reliability and accuracy plus the ability to suppress are my priorities. |
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I have had my G44 for almost 5 years and I have had no issues other than it shooting a bit high, solved with a taller front sight Glock sent for free. Reliability is up there with my Ruger MkIV's. I did put a Farrowtech aluminum striker sleeve in it over concerns I had with the stock polymer unit getting dinged up, and I recently bought a used threaded barrel for it off the EE and installed a Tandemkross comp. That being said, I don't like being pretty much stuck with the stock polymer sights.....yes I know you technically can put steel Glock sights on it but I don't like the idea of jamming a steel sight into a polymer dovetail. And I also don't trust the polymer recoil spring lug at the front of the slide, although I have never seen reports of them breaking. I recently picked up a pair or TX22's and I do have to admit they are the superior option in pretty much every way. |
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Originally Posted By afultz075: That being said, I don't like being pretty much stuck with the stock polymer sights.....yes I know you technically can put steel Glock sights on it but I don't like the idea of jamming a steel sight into a polymer dovetail. And I also don't trust the polymer recoil spring lug at the front of the slide, although I have never seen reports of them breaking. You definitely need to be careful with aftermarket metal Glock sites as some are wider than others. I have seen G44 slides broken when an over sized rear metal site was forced into place. |
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I put Glock Tritium Night Sights on my Glock 44 in March of 2022. I used the Gen 5 pattern GNS like the GNS on my 19.5. These Gen 5 sights have the 6.1 mm rear and standard 4.1 mm front sight. No issues with my Glock 44 since installing the GNS. The GNS shoot very close to point of aim for me. Here is a picture of my Glock 44 with the Glock factory night sights. I purchased my Glock 44 in June of 2020. 
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| The only real issue I've had with mine is that I'm having feeding issues with a new threaded barrel. I'm assuming that it's just needing to have the edges worn in, so I'm just going to hand cycle it a fair bit before the next range trip. Figure it's -40 here so it's not like I'm going shooting anytime soon. |
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| When I got my G44, I installed a red dot on a Strike Industries SPUR mount and sighted it in with CCI Stingers. It worked great for awhile and then went to crap. Now it is pretty much bone stock with Ameriglo Fiber optic sights and it has been trouble free ever since. It will eat whatever I shove in it and ask for more. I have been on the fence about the Nelson slide, so we'll have to wait and see about that. Now that Glock finally came out with 15 round mags for it, It makes it a more viable option as a training pistol for the G19. |
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The Taurus TX22 is a great choice suppressed, unless you want to use high velocity ammo. You MUST only use subsonic ammo suppressed. High velocity moves the slide too fast which causes multiple issues/jams/feed failures. I had no idea, until a family member pointed out that the owners manual clearly states to only use subsonic ammo, -suppressed-. I have zero problems with subsonic ammo suppressed, but even with a heavier spring weight recoil spring assembly, high velocity ammo causes malfunctions. I stick with Ruger MK pistols for suppressed with high velocity ammo. Edit for -suppressed- |
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I hope they make a G17 and G19 Gen6 .22lr where the bulk of the slide stays put and the "slide" is just a little bit of metal similar to the 22/45. This will greatly help with reliability, especially with an optic. I'd buy at least one of each. This really shouldn't be hard to do. The G44 makes no sense to me. |
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Very happy with my G44. Only use HV mostly CCI Minimag and works like a charm. I use the promag mags and fill them to 15 rounds. I have put a Shield SMS on it with the Shield dovetail mount and no problems what so ever. Love it as as trainer for my G19C but also for plinking and steelplates. Done the 25 cents triggerjob and the connecter and is just awesome.  
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24,000+ rounds through mine. I cant kill it. im talking mag dump after mag dump, run it under water to cool it off and kept on shooting. no problems. Most of that ammo was golden bullets and fed AM. 14,000 rounds of that was with the HF Braun lignt and thats still working. 
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