Posted: 10/28/2013 6:19:30 AM EDT
Well, my beloved G19 is on it's way back to GA. 
It's been my EDC since about April. I have somewhere between 1300-1500 rounds through it, total. A couple weeks ago I was using it in a steel match and at the end, noticed the slide lock loose in the frame. Further investigation revealed the spring was bent. I called and had a new spring shipped. I blasted a few mags through it and carried on carrying it. Yesterday I traveled to Lexington KY to shoot in the GSSF match. I shot the 19 and posted my best score to date with it (outshooting my 34). My wife came along and wanted to try her hand on the plate rack. We paid and she ran somewhere around 40 rounds through it busting the plates. When I went to load it back up for the trip home when I noticed the slide lock was gone. 
Now, I am pissed about that, but my friend that was shooting after me said, "Oh, this must be yours then, I found it on the table back there". He hands me a slide lock. What impresses me is that it still worked just fine. I never realized it would actually function with the slide lock missing. I suppose the round discharging keeps the slide from coming off the slide. So, you're ok with that part breaking as long as you don't have a mis fire. My guess is the frame will have to be replaced since two different springs failed in that short amount of time, so I'm guessing I'll end up with a new gun. |
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When you say "slide lock", are you talking about the slide release lever that you push down to release the slide when the slide is locked back or are you referring to some other part? gotta be the slide lock, not the slide release lever. Unless the pin left the gun also |
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When you say "slide lock", are you talking about the slide release lever that you push down to release the slide when the slide is locked back or are you referring to some other part? Curious, too. After the "amazed it still worked" I am thinking the two tabs you pull down when taking the slide off...? |
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Curious, too. After the "amazed it still worked" I am thinking the two tabs you pull down when taking the slide off...? Quoted:
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When you say "slide lock", are you talking about the slide release lever that you push down to release the slide when the slide is locked back or are you referring to some other part? Curious, too. After the "amazed it still worked" I am thinking the two tabs you pull down when taking the slide off...? that's the slide lock |
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When you say "slide lock", are you talking about the slide release lever that you push down to release the slide when the slide is locked back or are you referring to some other part? The slide lock= the two tabs you have to pull down for disassembling the pistol. The one people argue about is the slide stop aka slide release. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The slide lock= the two tabs you have to pull down for disassembling the pistol. The one people argue about is the slide stop aka slide release. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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When you say "slide lock", are you talking about the slide release lever that you push down to release the slide when the slide is locked back or are you referring to some other part? The slide lock= the two tabs you have to pull down for disassembling the pistol. The one people argue about is the slide stop aka slide release. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That is amazing that it still worked. People use the wrong term for that part all the time and just wanted to make sure what was really being discussed here. Thanks for the clarification. Edit: DOH! just noticed the bottom part of your profile says you are a glock armorer. If I would have seen that I could have answered my own question before I even asked it.
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That is amazing that it still worked. People use the wrong term for that part all the time and just wanted to make sure what was really being discussed here. Thanks for the clarification. Edit: DOH! just noticed the bottom part of your profile says you are a glock armorer. If I would have seen that I could have answered my own question before I even asked it. Quoted:
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When you say "slide lock", are you talking about the slide release lever that you push down to release the slide when the slide is locked back or are you referring to some other part? The slide lock= the two tabs you have to pull down for disassembling the pistol. The one people argue about is the slide stop aka slide release. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That is amazing that it still worked. People use the wrong term for that part all the time and just wanted to make sure what was really being discussed here. Thanks for the clarification. Edit: DOH! just noticed the bottom part of your profile says you are a glock armorer. If I would have seen that I could have answered my own question before I even asked it. That's what gets me.. I always thought the weak link of the whole system was the trigger spring. No particular reason other than it seemed like it would be the most likely part to break if one did... then in the armorers class, I learned that if you shoot from trigger reset, it would work if the trigger spring wasn't in the gun at all. Now I learn that the other thing I thought was a weak link (slide lock spring), was missing, it will also still work without it. I guess it's a wash of being pissed off that I had a part break, and learning that the gun can still function without it. 
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| The women wanted to hit a mall in the area, and I didn't notice it until we got there. I would have stopped and at least got a spring if I had noticed it before we left the range. Since it was the second time it happened within two weeks I knew it would need to go back to the factory. |
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Forgot to say, yes. I've had four gen 4's and this is the only issue out of any of them. The 34 is an early one and was shipped with the old ejector and slide lock spring. I swapped those out and have had no issues. Quoted:
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Was this a gen4 gun? Forgot to say, yes. I've had four gen 4's and this is the only issue out of any of them. The 34 is an early one and was shipped with the old ejector and slide lock spring. I swapped those out and have had no issues. Honestly, just to many reported problems with gen4 glocks for my taste. |
| Both times you had a problem the slide lock spring had become bent while firing which took tension off the slide lock allowing it to fall out? Very interesting. There was a problem with the slide lock spring on the earlier Gen 4 G19s. Glock designed a new slide lock spring for the Gen 4 to fix it, but if you got yours in April of this year it should have already had the new slide lock spring. Let us know what Glock says when they receive it. |
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As a Glock armorer myself, I'm very curious about how this plays out. Let us know if Glock replaces the whole frame or not. It's not an issue I've heard of a lot in the past, even with guns used as much as yours.
Your thread also got me thinking; we should start tracking how many and what parts you can take out of a Glock and still have it work (like the trigger spring you mentioned) 
Slide Lock Slide Lock Spring Trigger Spring (if you reset) Magazine/floorplate/spring/follower (technically you don't need it, although it's MURDER on your extractor) ...hmmm you're already at under 30 parts now. It's also funny because you can use the gun apparently without the slide lock IN, but god help you if you put it in backwards. |
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As a Glock armorer myself, I'm very curious about how this plays out. Let us know if Glock replaces the whole frame or not. It's not an issue I've heard of a lot in the past, even with guns used as much as yours. Your thread also got me thinking; we should start tracking how many and what parts you can take out of a Glock and still have it work (like the trigger spring you mentioned)
Slide Lock Slide Lock Spring Trigger Spring (if you reset) Magazine/floorplate/spring/follower (technically you don't need it, although it's MURDER on your extractor) ...hmmm you're already at under 30 parts now. It's also funny because you can use the gun apparently without the slide lock IN, but god help you if you put it in backwards. I've a had a trigger spring shear in half with the usual results. I also had a trigger pin shear at the indent on one side. The short 1/3 fell out and the gun ran fine. I only noticed it later in the day in the range, and kept shooting. |
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Both times you had a problem the slide lock spring had become bent while firing which took tension off the slide lock allowing it to fall out? Very interesting. There was a problem with the slide lock spring on the earlier Gen 4 G19s. Glock designed a new slide lock spring for the Gen 4 to fix it, but if you got yours in April of this year it should have already had the new slide lock spring. Let us know what Glock says when they receive it. I was aware of that problem because the old spring was in my 34 when I got it. The 19 had the new spring in it. I'm hoping it's something obvious and not a "looks in spec, tested ok" and ship it back so it happens again next month. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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That would mildly irritate me. I always changed out the serrated trigger bars for smooth ones. Quoted:
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Got my gun back. -REPLACED TRIGGER BAR (changed my smooth trigger for a serrated) They sent my smoot one back in the bag marked "customer part". The funny thing is I bet they tested it with that trigger too because there was lube on it. Either way, it's stupid but I'm sure they have to return it to "factory" specs before it goes out even though the smooth trigger IS a factory part, just not on the 19. To update the condition of the gun, my wife and I put 230 rounds through it and it worked flawlessly. I will say the replacement spring I tried the first time was very tight to the point it was difficult to even remove the slide, and the spring that came back in it was more like the original. So I'll be sure to update if I have more trouble with it. Getting as many rounds down the pipe as I did today makes me feel much better about it. |
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So, your slide lock was the problem and they replaced your trigger/bar? Sounds like when I sent my M&P FS9 in for accuracy issues and they drifted the rear sight to shoot to far to the left. Nothing fixed and what they did was unnecessary. My fear was there was a problem with the frame that caused the slide lock spring to work its way out or bend somehow. I don't know how they test it other than sticking a new spring in and firing it. |
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As a Glock armorer myself, I'm very curious about how this plays out. Let us know if Glock replaces the whole frame or not. It's not an issue I've heard of a lot in the past, even with guns used as much as yours. Your thread also got me thinking; we should start tracking how many and what parts you can take out of a Glock and still have it work (like the trigger spring you mentioned)
Slide Lock Slide Lock Spring Trigger Spring (if you reset) Magazine/floorplate/spring/follower (technically you don't need it, although it's MURDER on your extractor) ...hmmm you're already at under 30 parts now. It's also funny because you can use the gun apparently without the slide lock IN, but god help you if you put it in backwards. I just did the armorers recert last month. Our instructor claimed that a Glock will fire, although not cycle reliably, with ten of it's thirty-six parts missing. I don't believe that I will try it. It was an interesting statement though. |