[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Wilson Combat (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/27/2006 3:31:36 PM EDT
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I picked up a CQB earlier this year. Suffice to say, I am very, very happy with it. Is it worth it? In my experience, yes. It has been reliable and accurate (when I do my part). I could care less about the name, as it is a great looking gun and if Joe Bag o' Donuts had his roll mark on the slide, it wouldn't keep me away from it. |
5" gov model is more comfortable for me to CCW than a Glock 19. ...and I'm still saving up for a Wilson, Baer, Brown, or Yo-Bo. Until then, the Kimber will have to do, but it's not a bad gun. |
.....i only CCW a fullsize/Com size everynowandthen
You ..... Acidic . Hard to believe 
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I bought their 4" CQB Compact and it has made me happy so far. is $2,000 (+/- $500) worthwhile? What's your ass worth? It's a paltry sum for when I need it most. I have had a $900 pistol I couldn't trust to the second round of Winchester White Box at the range... try hollowpoints when SHTF. There are 3 points on the CCW triangle, and you can have only 2... Concealable Reliable Cheap I actually USE my CCW so concealable and reliable means something to me. YMMV |
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I think they are very good guns for the prices you can get them used. here is a used compact for $1600 here is used a fullsize for $1775 I personally think there there are better buys out there, but many people like them. I personally just picked up an Ed Brown Special Forces for $1800 NIB and I'd put that up against any Wilson CQB for $2200 any day. ETA: Wow! I just found this puppy NIB for $1795! I'd be all over that if you're in the market! |
Looks like you have never seriously priced a Wilson Combat before (if not, recently). MSRP is daunting, but there is a substantial reduction at the counter, particularly if it is a master dealer who keeps his profit margin realistic. Sure you might wish to pit the Ed Brown SF $ 1,800 against a Wilson CQB. Then again you SHOULD be getting the CQB MUCH cheaper than $2,200... in fact, cheaper than $1,800 as well. Had I not fucked with all the bells and whistles (no regrets nevertheless) My CQB Compact Stainless (which cost more than the standard) was floating @ around $1,800 before tax. |
I don't even know of a W/C dealer, mang! In fact, I've never even seen a real W/C in my life. |
You finally got the Special Forces? Congrats! I love mine thus far. |
| The SF goes for 1900 from Ed Brown, or atleast that's what I recall from the Magazine, I'd go ahead and spend an extra two or three hundred dollars at that point and get a mag well, and all of the other features, you're in that deep, what's two or three hundred dollars at that point? |
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What the heck since we are posting links.... www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=88&t=356292 I love it, I just never shoot it any more. |
Well, send it over here. And you are going to get butchered on the price because you have angered the spirit of JMB. Giving up on 1911s.  . If I wasn't able to get a brand spanking new CQB for a few hundred more I'd probably consider yours.
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I don't like "all of the other features". |
I dunno. We have several master dealers in my area (at least two I can think of) and I've looked them up on gunsamerica.com several times and they virtually always go for right at msrp. Maybe it's different in different parts of the country. |
| I don't know about you, but I have never seen a deal on Gunsamerica in my life, and everything sold there new and used goes for more than what one would expect to pay/receive for the firearm (even if it is by a small sum). It might be a point of reference regarding a market average but hardly the be all/end all of what's out there. You may have a point regarding local areas and what not, but that is more of a collective greed than anything else. I have gone through the books with 2 FFLs on Wilsons when I bought mine and the wiggle room between MSRP and a MASTER dealer is substantial to say the least ($350-$600). There is much less margin for a garden variety FFL, but I was still quoted under MSRP. I have one store here in town... unbelievable selection, and everything is in stock. They hold 8 Wilsons at any given moment and won't come down more than $50-$75 off MSRP. Every time I need a weapon or take a friend shopping, I go there, oggle, fondle, smudge, smear, then take my happy ass down the street and place my order with someone who doesn't stock it but knows how to work with the customer. Alas, it seems that your town has some greedy fucks for dealers and I would consider casting a wider dragnet next time you want a high dollar pistol. |
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If I'm not mistaken up until three years ago the CQB had a bunch of MIM parts in it. This pretty much turned me off on WC. The do have a great reputation though epecially for great customer service. I remember reading post from someone a couple years ago, they called WC to bitch when they found out about the MIM parts and they told him "oh, you have to buy the $2300 pistol to get all the bullet proof parts. He was pissed to say the least. I went with a Baer TRS and so far I am very happy. I think for the money they are the best 1911 out there. As long as you know going in the are built tight you shouldn't have any problems. |
I had a KZ and really liked it but I was hoping that WC would bring out 14-15 round mags for it because they could get 13 flush with the grip and a small base pad could easily give to more and the Master Dealer strait up told me that there was not a chance in hell of that ever happening. I sold it the next week. |
Well if you ever do, it'll cost you an arm and a leg to send it back to the Shop, and it'll void your warranty to send it some place else, so if I was anybody, if I was considering something on a custom pistol, I'd get it the first time around. EDIT:
I've got a question, why is it, that every time somebody makes a comment and they're just talking about themselves, or whatever they plan on doing, you make it a point to make a smart comment, I know you work in a gun shop, or atleast that's what I percieve, but don't go out of your way to be spiteful for people that come here in their free time. They don't deserve to be spoken to like that, and you shouldn't feel obligated to talk to them like that either. It contributes nothing, and only serves one purpose, pissing people off. EDIT Again: One other thing, if you can't be constructive, I'd suggest saying nothing, I mean, hell, You should apply your own sig to yourself.
What qualifying things did any of those posts give, or what positive after thoughts came from any. |
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For what you are getting and what they are asking, I would hardly call the Smith Airweight cheap. Now if that was a Taurus analog you would have had me (and sadly enough I just tried the airweights, and the Taurus right next to them had a smoother trigger). I like wheelguns including the 5-shot .38/.357s. They seem to range in the $500-$700. I find certain advantages with automatics however, like carrying 8 rounds in a roughly = concealable nature, having 10 rd spare mags, and the ability to load faster (with less training), and having a 3.5 pound single action triggerpull instead of an 8+ pound DAO triggerpull. These are the features that are worth the cost, since building a reliable small auto is more difficult than a reliable small revolver. |
I always find it odd that guys with basically zero WC CQB experience have such strong opinions about them. Almost all of it negative.  FYI – I owned one a few years ago. It was a very well built and reliable pistol, except for one issue. The front sight kept coming loose every 1000-1500 rounds. I kind of got sick of sending it back every few months. Other than that it was an extremely reliable & accurate 1911. It even went through some fairly high round count days (700-850) like a champ. IMO – Every 1911 in this price range should have a pinned front sight. I would not hesitate for a second on buying another CQB – I would just make sure it came from the factory with a pinned sight or I would send it off immediately to a competent 1911 gunsmith to get it done. |
 Damn you, man...Must resist buying another... #1's less than a year old... must resist... FUCK!!!!!! Maybe. |
You think its hard on you, try imagining how much stuff you acquire when you're a dealer 
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Don't they come dove tail cut now?  I could have sworn that even their blank slides come dovetail cut. But I agree. Even my Colt factory staked front sight have come off.
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Yes, they are dovetailed and they still come loose. This is not a negative towards WC. It's a negative towards any 1911 in this price range that does not have its front sight pinned. |
Ahhh.. I see. I guess this is why the guy that did my dovetails pinned them too. I thought it was overkill at the time. |
First, you told me what I should do with my pistol assuming that I wanted all the junk glued onto my gun that you do. "I don't like 'all of the other feature'". Is my opinion. As to my opinion on the Wilson polymer pistols, I have qualified my response many times. Feel free to utilize the search feature. Otherwise, what is the problem? Do you own one and take it personally when someone bags on your shit? |
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The first 1911 I ever shot was a Remington Rand in 1966. I've owned various series 70 and 80's Colts over the years since then plus Srpingfields, (Black Stainless, MC Operator) and a Kimber Custom II. My WC CQB is undoubtable the best pistol I've ever shot. Fit, finish, tight frame to slide, crisp trigger pull and the accuracy is excellent. It's worth it to me. 
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Did you just describe a glock 26? |