Posted: 4/29/2011 8:32:33 AM EDT
|
Link
Is this a drop in part or will it need fitting? It will be going on a "NM" prefix SA Loaded. Thanks. |
|
I HAD one of these. Get a brown or EGW.
The wilson is good quality however it will...... Chew on your thumb when engaging/disengaging Catch on your holster upon reholstering due to the square front. It can be rounded to eliminate the snag problem but it was still uncomfortable for me. |
|
Quoted:
Link Is this a drop in part or will it need fitting? It will be going on a "NM" prefix SA Loaded. Thanks. It may or it may not. There is really no such thing as a "drop-in" part, just sometimes we get lucky. Anything extended will probably require some fitting. |
|
Quoted:
Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Slingshot method does require both hands, however. I've always dropped the slide with my thumb while getting my left hand back on the gun and my sights back on target. I find an extended slide stop far more useful than an extended safety. YMMV of course. OP, I've had Wilson Extended slide stops drop into older Para Ordnance P14s and single stack Colt 1911s as well. I only recently had to have on fitted on my Para Ordnance Super Hawg. |
|
Quoted:
Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Because I absolutely hate the slingshot method and it takes more time to release the slide using that method. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Because I absolutely hate the slingshot method and it takes more time to release the slide using that method. Really? |
| I put one on a stainless SA back in 2004. It went on with no fitting of the part or frame at all. It caught the slide notch securely and always activated when the mag was empty. I did have to take a round file to the set of aftermarket grips I had on the gun. They were thicker than factory SA and the slide stop wouldn't depress far enough without the extra clearance. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Because I absolutely hate the slingshot method and it takes more time to release the slide using that method. Really? Yes, I really do hate that method. I have no problem using it when chambering the first round on an unloaded and unfired pistol for sure. But subsequent reloads while the slide is locked, ejecting the spent magazine and inserting a loaded magazine, I ALWAYS use the slide release lever to chamber. To me its faster and more comfortable. |
|
Quoted:
Oh hell. I take back what I said. I was thinking thumb safety. (Still stick with what i said on that item though.) Extended slide stop is kinda useless though. Why exactly is an extended slide stop kinda usless? If I don't have to alter my grip during a reload, that is very useful and it makes changing magazines a bit faster. I find the aformentioned very useful. |
|
Quoted:
Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Lots of people use it as a slide release and forgo the slingshot method altogether. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Oh hell. I take back what I said. I was thinking thumb safety. (Still stick with what i said on that item though.) Extended slide stop is kinda useless though. Why exactly is an extended slide stop kinda usless? If I don't have to alter my grip during a reload, that is very useful and it makes changing magazines a bit faster. I find the aformentioned very useful. the extra mass and length has a history of going on when you want it off. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Lots of people use it as a slide release and forgo the slingshot method altogether. IIRC LAV advises this as well. For those who say it's a fine motor control and is too difficult to do under stress? Working the trigger is a fine motor control, as is hitting the magazine release- and depending on the gun in question, the slide release could be 3 times larger than that mag release 
|
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do you really need an extended stop stop? I've always found them...well...useless. That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Slingshot method does not require it. Lots of people use it as a slide release and forgo the slingshot method altogether. IIRC LAV advises this as well. For those who say it's a fine motor control and is too difficult to do under stress? Working the trigger is a fine motor control, as is hitting the magazine release- and depending on the gun in question, the slide release could be 3 times larger than that mag release You're preaching to the choir my friend. That whole gross vs. fine muscle control argument is BS.
I suspect someone will next say "Well, JMB didn't design it as such." True - nor did he incorporate useful sights, extended thumb safeties, beaver tails, long triggers, etc. etc. He was a genius, but things have evolved. At the end of the day, shoot however is most effective for you. I tried an extended slide stop for a little while and went back to the normal because my stacked thumbs (I have giant hands) would inadvertently release the slide on an empty magazine (same reason I never really cottoned to Sigs). |
|
Well maybe not useless for you then. I've always found the slingshot method to be more foolproof ( some of those slide stops can be sticky) & most I know have to alter thier grip regardless the length of the slide stop.
But it is useless for ME...I I don't like the way they look & feel the slingshot method to be superior. |
|
Quoted: Well maybe not useless for you then. I've always found the slingshot method to be more foolproof ( some of those slide stops can be sticky) & most I know have to alter thier grip regardless the length of the slide stop. But it is useless for ME...I I don't like the way they look & feel the slingshot method to be superior. |
|
Quoted:
Well maybe not useless for you then. I've always found the slingshot method to be more foolproof ( some of those slide stops can be sticky) & most I know have to alter thier grip regardless the length of the slide stop. But it is useless for ME...I I don't like the way they look & feel the slingshot method to be superior. I'm the last guy who will say that there is only one right way to do stuff. The right way is however YOU get rounds on target as quickly and as accurately as possible. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Oh hell. I take back what I said. I was thinking thumb safety. (Still stick with what i said on that item though.) Extended slide stop is kinda useless though. Why exactly is an extended slide stop kinda usless? If I don't have to alter my grip during a reload, that is very useful and it makes changing magazines a bit faster. I find the aformentioned very useful. the extra mass and length has a history of going on when you want it off. I've read this before, but do you realize that there is almost no extra mass? The Wilson part weighs less than some of my standard Slide Releases, and given that I've never personally had this happen on several double and single stack 1911s I've owned....I call BS on this myth. You might push it up with your hand during recoil if you hold the pistol a certain way, but I've seen guiys engage safeties and drop mags due to improper grips as well. I'm sticking with mine. Here are 3 different models, all different vintages: late 1980s Para lightweight frame kit + Colt Commander upper + King's slide release, mid 1990s P14 stainless upper + 'ban years' P14 lower + early 1980s AMT slide release, 2011 Para Super Hawg + 2011 Wilson slide release. The Wilson on the Super Hawg took a little fitting, and I have a Fusion that took a little fitting as well (both well worth it to me) but all the others I have used, including the original replacement Wilson on the old hybrid Para-Commander (before I added the King's model) were drop ins. 
|
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
That part is designed to be a slide stop, not a slide release. Why did JMB put a thumb pad on it that only works to push it DOWN? Why does every manufacturer of 1911 slide stops put a thumb pad on their product that only works to push it DOWN? +1 |
|
i think this one is better....
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16457/Product/1911_AUTO_BULLET_PROOF_trade__SLIDE_STOP |
|
Quoted: i think this one is better.... http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16457/Product/1911_AUTO_BULLET_PROOF_trade__SLIDE_STOP http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16457/Product/1911_AUTO_BULLET_PROOF_trade__SLIDE_STOP# its not extended, defeats his purpose. and i, personally, find the bulletproof products a tad over the top |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
i think this one is better.... http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16457/Product/1911_AUTO_BULLET_PROOF_trade__SLIDE_STOP http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16457/Product/1911_AUTO_BULLET_PROOF_trade__SLIDE_STOP# its not extended, defeats his purpose. and i, personally, find the bulletproof products a tad over the top I've cracked on SS in my time. A Kimber from a pre series II. I installed the Wilson BP as I like the flat shelf, 10 years later still going. |