Posted: 7/5/2004 11:03:16 PM EDT
| CCW gun... which is better? More reliable? |
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I like my XD-Sub... someone surly likes their Glock. To each his own.... handle both, shoot them if you can, then decide. I carry the XD-9 Sub everyday... for over a year now, with over 2k thru it. The frame rails are larger in the XD, and I think the action and internals are simpler than the Glock. The trigger in my XD has gotten noticebly more smooth with use, but out of the box it beat the Glocks I handled anyway. Edited to add, after I read the Glock kaboom thread below: The XD generally wont fire out of battery, unlike the Glock. If you use good ammo this shouldn't be a concern. |
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IMHO, you can't go wrong with either. My Glock 26 is a great carry pistol, but the XD's trigger feels much better (plus it has the grip safety). I'd personally give a very slight edge to the Glock, just because of its proven track record of reliability. But then again, my XD40 (service model, not subcompact), after a polish of the feed ramp, has been very reliable too. --Mike |
I have owned Glocks for years. I have never seen ANY Glock that was capable of firing out of battery. There could have been some that through a lot of wear or with some sort of factory defect could fire out of battery but this is NOT a part of the Glock design. |
It could be a better "deal" but the Steyr is the most unsafe modern design ever made. They are by far the most likely so called "good" pistol to fire without a trigger pull and this fact makes the XD or the Glock a better choice for everyday carry if one wishes to avoid an AD. |
Almost two hours on a Steyr post, I thought that one was going to get away from you.  |
| Anywho-the XD grip angle is a little different and it has a grip safety, the trigger might be a little better, I've only dry fired a few of them. I've never heard of any reliability problems with them, but there aren't the samenumbers of them out there as there are Glocks. I'd guess they are pretty equal and it's a matter of personal preference. |
HAHA, it was your ranting on this subject at THR and TFL that got me to actually check out the Steyrs, my conclusion was different than yours. No I won't debate it with you, there's been plenty of that done by people with all the facts in their head. Maybe you should look at the steyr club over at the Glock forums where one member loaded up a primered case (No powder, no bullet) and on a bet dropped it on the ice 50 times without a discharge. |
You'ld think the guy owned stock in some kind of Anti-Steyr corporation. |
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I really could care less what a few people that don't even know if the pistol they carry is even a DA or SA think about the drop safety of a pistol they know nothing about. If one understands gun design then you have to know and understand that the Steyr's design is the most likely modern so called "carry" gun to fire without a trigger pull. Anyone can clearly and eaisly see this IF they know the basic difference between SA and DA and know and understand how the safety devices work on modern handguns. Also my point WILL be proven now that these pistols are selling for less than $300. A few years ago they were fairly rare because they were expensive. Today a lot of people such as yourself that do not know shit about gun design are carring these things in public and my point WILL be proven. Sooner or later a Steyr pistol with a little wear on the sear or striker or with a loose frame to slide fit will accidently kill someone. I have personaly seen what can and will happen with a Steyr with such problems. Even before I seen what I seen I knew the Steyr could be capable of this. So someday when you hear about someone getting a round through their head because some idiot dropped a loaded Steyr pistol you can think of me and remember you were warned. Untill then you are invited to go fuck yourself. This is my last word on this subject on this thread. |
This could have just been pasted from any discussion you've ever participated in about these pistols, you never shown any proof, you just keep yelling; I'm smart, you're stupid, go fuck yourself. Look, I have no desire to get into this with you, it's just that your rabid dedication to bad mouthing these fine pistols is ridiculous. I'm done here, Bear_B deserves answers, not a sideshow. |
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I have a Glock 26 to go with my Glock 19 1) because the Department says that's the one I'm allowed to carry off duty and as a back up and, 2)...more importantly, I can use the higher capacity Glock mags in my 26 (Glock 19-15 rounder, Glock 17-17 rounder, Glock 18-31 rounder). This is important to me because I only need to carry one other type of additional magazine when I carry both guns. |
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WesDesRat is right, the XD has proven itself reliable and durable, the Glock the same, but with a longer track record. I think the main thing is how they feel and shoot in YOUR hands. You really can't go wrong with both. Both feel too small in my hands in their stock form, so I haven't decided on which one would be best for me either... but don't listen to me! I bought a Steyr!h, The fact that Steyr is coming out with the redesigned M-A1 soon means that these pistols may be more mainstream than our closeout M and S series, and since there is no mechanical change to the pistols firing mechanism, it would seem the problems you claim would not be solved. I think they would be most grateful if you provide them with your information, and possibly prevent any liability issues, or even lawsuits, against their company. Hell, they may even buy 'em back like Vector did! The Internet extends only so far, and there are some people out ther who haven't heard your warning yet. I can find no fault with my S9, but it seems you have a lot more knowledge and expierience with firearms than me, and I believe you should contact a Steyr representative immediately, before someone more misinformed than you gets hurt. Ranting only gets you so far, you need to take action now. Diamond Trail Shooters Supply 606 S. Front St. Montezuma, IA 50171 641- 623- 3098 or 800- 896- 4867 641- 623 - 5672 (FAX) [email protected] |
You do bring up a very interesting point... since I already have a G19 maybe I should consider going the same route. |
The 26 looks sick with the Glock 18 mag 
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Good point... hate to have an AD and feel the slick slimy feeling of whats left of one of my balls sliding down my leg into my shoe. |
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http://sinclairvoluptuousspacecaptain.com/XD9Gallery/images/xd_manicure.jpg XD-9 Sub... or poop XD-40 Sub! |
IMO, Glock. Proven track record and millions of rounds down range. I have read about a Glock with over 100,000 rounds through it. www.volny.cz/glock/html/tested.htm |
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I would say if you like the Glock type action and features, take a hard look at the SA XD 40 subcompact. At $499 (local price here) INCLUDING the XML lilght, and mag interchangability with the 15 round full size XD mags(LE Only now, but will be available come september), it is a very good value. I have seen the XD subcompact in 9mm, .40 S&W without the light (with rail) for $399 new. PLus lifetime warranty also. Very robust handgun. ALSO, you should give this a read; definitely worth considering if you are looking at a GLOCK in a caliber other than 9mm: known Glock Issues - very few seen in 9mm |