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2/18/2005 3:35:03 AM EDT
Considering a pistol in this nifty little round, but dont currently own one.  

Can someone tell me how much ammo runs for it?  Its a little bitty round so are they the same cost as .22lr?  

Sold at Wal-Mart?
2/18/2005 3:38:07 AM EDT
[#1]
17HMR is quite a bit more expensive than 22LR.
2/18/2005 3:57:08 AM EDT
[#2]
Ok... how MUCH more?
2/18/2005 4:01:12 AM EDT
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Bear i believe they are $4.00 for 50 rounds. i do not own one i just seen an ad for these rounds in a store flyer. i think that was the price???
2/18/2005 4:08:40 AM EDT
[#4]
Around here i think they're like 7-8$ for a box of 50 for Hornady Varmint Express rounds
2/18/2005 6:10:14 AM EDT
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You can get them for as little as $6/box of 50 if you look.  I like to buy mine in bulk from www.natchezss.com when they have them on sale.  It is not as economical to shoot as 22, but not much more than 22 magnum.  Lots of fun in a rifle, but I have never tried a pistol.
2/18/2005 6:41:40 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Considering a pistol in this nifty little round, but dont currently own one.  

Can someone tell me how much ammo runs for it?  Its a little bitty round so are they the same cost as .22lr?  

Sold at Wal-Mart?


I just bought a couple of boxes at Wally-world yesterday. Both the CCI, and Federal run $9.47.
I am in the process now of buying a Taurus Tracker in 17HMR. As you can see from my post on this it seems that no one here has any experience with it. I've done alot of research, check out this review www.gunblast.com/TaurusTracker17.htm
I found the new Ruger Hunter in 17HMR to be waaaaay over priced! The Tracker is costing me $289. I should have it next week so I'll post a range report.
2/18/2005 7:18:41 AM EDT
[#7]
Whats the difference between the 17hmr and the 17 machII . is the machII a rifle round? i am quite a bit faster velocities too???  
2/18/2005 8:34:33 AM EDT
[#8]
We sell 17 HMR ammo for $10 - $12 for a box of 50 at work.  We sell 22 LR for about $3.  17HM2 is a little cheaper, about $7 - $8 a box, and that's the round that is a 22LR necked down to 17.  Comparing the 17 HMR and a 22 LR is like comparing orange to angry. The 17 HMR is a 22 magnum necked down to 17.
2/18/2005 8:36:41 AM EDT
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The Mach II is based on the .22lr.  the 17HMR is based on the .22 WMR.  The mach II is a smaller, lower velocity round, that will work better with the plethora of .22 lr based firearms.  
2/18/2005 9:15:09 AM EDT
[#10]
The mach II should come down to $5 a box, at least that's Hornady's intent.  If you don't mind the price, the 17HMR and Mach II are both more consitantly accurate than the .22lr.
2/18/2005 9:33:56 AM EDT
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The mach II should come down to $5 a box, at least that's Hornady's intent.  If you don't mind the price, the 17HMR and Mach II are both more consitantly accurate than the .22lr.



Please define 'more consistently accurate' in terms that justify a 400% increase in ammo prices.
2/18/2005 9:37:09 AM EDT
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My 10/22 that I rebarreled shoots 1 hole groups at 50 yards.  And it does that with cheap (~$7/500 at Academy) ammo.  I don't think a 17 is going to do any better.
2/18/2005 11:49:30 AM EDT
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My 10/22 that I rebarreled shoots 1 hole groups at 50 yards.  And it does that with cheap (~$7/500 at Academy) ammo.  I don't think a 17 is going to do any better.


Sure, if you want to limmit yourself to a mere 50yrds! Check out the balistics. The 17HMR out performs the 22LR, or 22WMR hands down! It's flatter shooting, more accurate out to 200yrds, and kills critters with sheer velocity alone! here is a link to some range testing on the 17HMR. good pics and lot's of info!www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm
2/18/2005 3:44:03 PM EDT
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My 10/22 that I rebarreled shoots 1 hole groups at 50 yards.  And it does that with cheap (~$7/500 at Academy) ammo.  I don't think a 17 is going to do any better.


Sure, if you want to limmit yourself to a mere 50yrds! Check out the balistics. The 17HMR out performs the 22LR, or 22WMR hands down! It's flatter shooting, more accurate out to 200yrds, and kills critters with sheer velocity alone! here is a link to some range testing on the 17HMR. good pics and lot's of info!www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm

Hmmm...Effective out to 200 yards?  That sounds like a %400 increase in range.  Yeah, how you like me now Arowneragain! Wooo...Yeah!headbang.gif
2/18/2005 4:35:38 PM EDT
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I do not think 17 is inherrantly more accurate than 22lr.  22lr ammo is targeted at the cheap ass crowd, and is made in bulk volume cheaply for that crowd.

Take the 22lr ammo that is marketed for the Anchutz target crowd and I think you will see that 22lr ammo is plenty accurate.
2/18/2005 4:45:41 PM EDT
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I do not think 17 is inherrantly more accurate than 22lr.  22lr ammo is targeted at the cheap ass crowd, and is made in bulk volume cheaply for that crowd.

Take the 22lr ammo that is marketed for the Anchutz target crowd and I think you will see that 22lr ammo is plenty accurate.



C'me on you guys!  Range, range, range,  the old .22lr looses it after 100yards.  That's why you pay the premium for the .17s, playing around at more chalenging distances.
2/18/2005 6:41:22 PM EDT
[#17]

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I do not think 17 is inherrantly more accurate than 22lr.  22lr ammo is targeted at the cheap ass crowd, and is made in bulk volume cheaply for that crowd.

Take the 22lr ammo that is marketed for the Anchutz target crowd and I think you will see that 22lr ammo is plenty accurate.


I agree, but only out to about 50yrds! The 22lr drops like a rock after that. The 17HMR is designed to cruise the distance.  Seriousely, take a look at the link I have in the above post. The 17HMR is a screamer! It's kind of like compairing a slow moving 455 webly (600fps) to a 454 casull (2000+fps).  
2/18/2005 11:36:25 PM EDT
[#18]
I have a savage bolt action in .17 HMR. It will do interesting things to small game and will shoot under 1MOA at 100 yards.


Its also like shooting a laser out to that distance.
2/19/2005 6:59:44 AM EDT
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I have the taurus tracker in 17 hmr. Once you work the bugs out it is a pretty good shooter. I haven't put it on the bench but with the right ammo it will hold pretty good groups. It is finicky with its ammo though, mine seems to like the 17gr v-max bullets better and it tends to sling the 20gr hp rounds. The bugs which I speak of are the gun hits the rim so hard it deforms the case and causes the cylinder to jam. I lightend the spring to the point where it will sometimes not fire in double action, which doesn't matter because I almost always use it as a single action to increase accuracy. I also took the once fired deformed brass and place polishing compound on the rim to slightly polish out the high spots on the frame. Overall I would say that I was slightly displeased that I had to do so much work to a new gun to get it too work. And for those of you who say I should have sent it back to the factory, I just like to fix things myself and tinker till it works.
2/19/2005 6:37:33 PM EDT
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I have the taurus tracker in 17 hmr.  It is finicky with its ammo though, mine seems to like the 17gr v-max bullets better and it tends to sling the 20gr hp rounds.


Hmmm, I was wondering about that. I will be getting my 17HMR Tracker next week. I know that it has a 1:10 twist which is designed for the lighter 17gr. bullet. This critter getter is so small in bullet wieght I wondered if just a mere 3grains would make alot of difference. Can you give an example of just how much difference in acuacy the heavier bullet makes?
2/20/2005 7:01:26 AM EDT
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With the 17gr vmax I could get around 1 1/2in groups at 25 yards with at least one flyer and with the 20gr I would get about 3 of the 7 in a 2in group and the rest would be all over.  Keep in mind I wasn't putting my gun on a bench, just resting it on my truck so some of the flyers are definitely my fault, but there is a definite difference between the two rounds.
2/20/2005 9:55:33 AM EDT
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Quoted:

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I do not think 17 is inherrantly more accurate than 22lr.  22lr ammo is targeted at the cheap ass crowd, and is made in bulk volume cheaply for that crowd.

Take the 22lr ammo that is marketed for the Anchutz target crowd and I think you will see that 22lr ammo is plenty accurate.


I agree, but only out to about 50yrds! The 22lr drops like a rock after that. The 17HMR is designed to cruise the distance.  Seriousely, take a look at the link I have in the above post. The 17HMR is a screamer! It's kind of like compairing a slow moving 455 webly (600fps) to a 454 casull (2000+fps).  


Like I said in my first post, comparing a 17 HMR to a 22 LR is like comparing orange to angry.  I just said that I don't believe it is any more INHERENTLY ACCURATE than a 22 LR.  Just because something drops doesn't mean it isn't accurate.  I've shot my 308 out to 600 yards and it drops like hell out there, but it still shoots 1 MOA.