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7/10/2007 7:24:37 PM EDT
Can anyone tell me a good model that will shoot both, for a decent price.  I really like the SW Lightweights, but i don't want to spend that much.  What else is out there?  I like several of the Taurus models, but they show that they only shoot one or the other, correct?
7/10/2007 8:36:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Not correct.  You can shoot .38 special out of any .357 Magnum.  Buy a good .357 and you're GTG
7/10/2007 8:37:51 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Not correct.  You can shoot .38 special out of any .357 Magnum.  Buy a good .357 and you're GTG
7/10/2007 10:43:04 PM EDT
[#3]
If this is not a CCW you will wear out a pair of sneakers kicking your own ass for getting a lightweight .357

I have a .357 snub in steel and it is a very uncomfortable gun to shoot many rounds with. Your best bet is to find a used Smith .357 in with a 3-4" barrel. They are affordable quality shooters with the smoothest action out there.
7/11/2007 11:59:01 AM EDT
[#4]
Ditto the above post.  Only get a snubby if you're going to carry it.  They're unpleasant to shoot even with soft 38 loads.  

I have a GP100 that I like alot.  Smith would be the other choice.  

Tauruses are cheaper and if it's just a range gun, they're OK too, but they'd be behind the Smith and Ruger for me.

7/11/2007 12:08:48 PM EDT
[#5]
For concealment, get a J-frame or maybe a K-frame or SP101.

For the range, get a 686 or 627 or a GP100.

7/11/2007 11:35:02 PM EDT
[#6]
686....nuff said!
7/12/2007 3:22:52 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Ditto the above post.  Only get a snubby if you're going to carry it.  They're unpleasant to shoot even with soft 38 loads.  

I have a GP100 that I like alot.  Smith would be the other choice.  

Tauruses are cheaper and if it's just a range gun, they're OK too, but they'd be behind the Smith and Ruger for me.



I have to disagree completely.  I have a pair of Taurus 605's and a SP-101 that shoot like cap guns with .38 loads, and are still pretty mild with .357 rounds, even after 100+ rounds per range session.  The recoil on my 7.5" Super Redhawk in .44mag is worse than these snubbys with .357 loads IMO, and none of them are bad at all really.  Any grown man should have no trouble eating through a box of .357 in a snub.  Granted, the GP-100 is lighter recoiling but it's not like the snubs kick like a .475 Linebaugh or something.  
7/13/2007 5:56:01 AM EDT
[#8]
+1 on what Blacksnake said. I have a 340SC and while the recoil is stout, the gun only weighs 13 oz. The only time recoil gets a bit much is with the 158 gr rounds, or any Speer Gold Dot load. I can shoot +P's all day long, although wadcutters are the mildest.
7/15/2007 1:17:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Awesome thanks for the info guys.  I had thought in the past that they could shoot either, but i wonder why on Taurus' website, it says that the revolvers are available in .38 or .357?  Why would they have two guns available for different calibers is the .357 can do both?  Maybe if you wanted one that would only shoot .38s i guess, but i would just buy the .357 to have the option either way.

Here, look at the description, for some reason it makes it sound like you have to choose one way or the other.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=268&category=Revolver


And BTW, this would be a CC gun at times, along with the glock 27.  So that is why i'm looking at the shorty's. :)
7/18/2007 9:42:49 AM EDT
[#10]
I have a Ruger SP101 2.25" (5-shot) that does quite nicely for concealed.  And a GP100 6" (6-shot) that is what I take when I go fishing and hunting.  Both have enough mass in them that the recoil is not too bad.  Steer clear of lightweights unless you are already a recoil junky!  Another tidbit in addition to the fact that all .357 Magnum (not 357 sig or 357 Max) revolvers can shoot 38 specials they can also shoot 9mm if you get a cylinder/ring for it.

7/19/2007 1:38:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Ruger SP101 with a 3" barrel, chambered for .357 mag. My 2.25" is pleasant to shoot even with full power .357 mag loads.
7/20/2007 3:41:11 PM EDT
[#12]
I'll recommend a Ruger GP-100 4" stainless .357 revolver. The thing is built like a tank and with the full underlug, it tames the hottest .357 loads.
7/20/2007 3:55:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Let's try this. Why do you want a .357?
7/20/2007 3:58:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Python
7/28/2007 11:35:07 AM EDT
[#15]
If you want something good, stay away for Taurus.
7/28/2007 8:48:54 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
If you want something good, stay away for Taurus.


Of all the people I know who own taurus guns, none have ever had any problems. Dad had a 4" m66 taurus that was a really good wheelgun, then he bought a 6" m66 taurus and sold the 4". Again, it's a really good wheelgun.

I had an older(made in the mid 80's) model 85 taurus. I really liked that snubby except for the fact that it was .38 and not .357, nor was it rated for +P. It had a better action/trigger than my current ruger SP101, and I probably shot it a little better. The metallurgy of some of the older guns wasn't really up to par, but the newer ones are.
7/28/2007 9:02:57 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Awesome thanks for the info guys.  I had thought in the past that they could shoot either, but i wonder why on Taurus' website, it says that the revolvers are available in .38 or .357?  Why would they have two guns available for different calibers is the .357 can do both?  Maybe if you wanted one that would only shoot .38s i guess, but i would just buy the .357 to have the option either way.
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There are some concerns in that anything chambered for 357Rem Mag will put you at a disadvantage in a court of law, ie excessive force.  Having a firearm that only chambers 38spl will alleviate some of that concern.  In some LE agencies only 38spls are allowed.  For non-LE people get the 357Rem Mag version and you can also shoot 38spl.

I would go with a Ruger GP100 or SP101, and then Taurus.  S&W will retain its value way better than Ruger or Taurus.  Many of my Colt and S&W guns, I can sell it for at least what I paid for years ago, and in the case of my Colt Python, probably sell for 2X more.
8/1/2007 6:43:42 PM EDT
[#18]
S&W model 642 or 638.  Both are great for deep concealment.
.38 + P by Speer Gold Dot.  My local gun shop has them both on sale for $370.00.
I pick up my model 638 S&W in two weeks along with my Rock River AR-15 I odered 7 weeks ago. One thing I have learned is spend the extra 50-100 dollars to get the "better" firearm.  

8/1/2007 6:54:16 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
There are some concerns in that anything chambered for 357Rem Mag will put you at a disadvantage in a court of law, ie excessive force.


I personally do not have or share those concerns, but YMMV.
8/10/2007 9:14:57 PM EDT
[#20]
686 used
8/11/2007 6:41:08 AM EDT
[#21]
Ive owned two tauruses pt1911 and Model85 .38 special both work but you can tell the difference in the workmanship and the preformance my 1911's gone 8,000 rounds with one jam but the trigger is gritty no matter how much you adjust it and the feel of the materials is nothing like a well made gun, also my model 85 misses a cylinder if you get to fast on the trigger which I found out by renting other taurus models at the range they all do it.

Smith & wesson vs ruger= ruger less expensive than the smith but also alot heavier also it doesnt have a safety lock in the middle of the sear. Smith smoother action larger cylinder moon clips available for quick reloads.
8/11/2007 12:33:38 PM EDT
[#22]
To me there's no contest... Ruger SP101 3"


Heres a Link to alot of information/testing with it.



Rough
8/15/2007 7:55:01 AM EDT
[#23]
You should be able to pick up a used S&W 686+ (7 shots) for $350 or less.  

Wonderful .357, I wouldn't own anything else.

8/15/2007 5:47:32 PM EDT
[#24]
I picked up both of these Ruger 6 series pistols for under $300 each.









Summit Gun Broker LLC has 4 inch 686s for sale at a good price.
8/16/2007 10:30:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Get a 686 2 1/2 inch or 4inch. 6 shot or seven, you cant go wrong.
8/17/2007 9:05:41 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
To me there's no contest... Ruger SP101 3"
www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=549/31486DSCF1449_1-med.jpg

Heres a Link to alot of information/testing with it.



Rough


I have a GP100 3" that I love. Very mild recoil and a beefy gun while not being too hefty to wear all day.
8/17/2007 9:44:41 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
There are some concerns in that anything chambered for 357Rem Mag will put you at a disadvantage in a court of law, ie excessive force.


I personally do not have or share those concerns, but YMMV.


What lib koolaid have you been drinking?
9/8/2007 10:54:24 PM EDT
[#28]
what ever gun you chose the key to your post is .38 special / 357mag and not .38
probley what you ment anyway but just to be clear.
9/8/2007 11:47:33 PM EDT
[#29]

There are some concerns in that anything chambered for 357Rem Mag will put you at a disadvantage in a court of law, ie excessive force. Having a firearm that only chambers 38spl will alleviate some of that concern.


9/9/2007 12:13:41 AM EDT
[#30]
     Each person will reach his/her own conclusions but here are mine.
For carry stick with lightweight 38sp. I like the 642. the 357s lightweights kick too hard and are too expensive,the steel guns are too heavy.
For enjoyable shooting mid to full sized 357 is the way to go , I prefer the 586/686
9/9/2007 12:52:48 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted: Post Number :: 31692

There are some concerns in that anything chambered for 357Rem Mag will put you at a disadvantage in a court of law, ie excessive force.  Having a firearm that only chambers 38spl will alleviate some of that concern.  In some LE agencies only 38spls are allowed.  For non-LE people get the 357Rem Mag version and you can also shoot 38spl.