Posted: 11/28/2005 12:35:51 AM EDT
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Linky I imagine we've all seen this thing by now. Looks to be good, seems like solid parts and no POS stuff in there. So, given the choice of our beloved .45 or the .50, would you be willing to carry the .50 for your own defense? |
+1 I believe a hand gun is a handgun and I am of the opinion that a long gun is what I want to have on hand if something goes down. If I'm carrying my 1911 only, I would rather have as much practice w/ weapon and carry load as possible. I figure that if 200 grn +p Gold dots can't do it, that a .50 won't either. Lastly, I can't see spending that much for a single firearm. |
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Nothing really special about the 50 GI round, You can take a modern 1911 45, cut down 308 cases, then make 45 ACP ammo using 300 grain bullets loaded to 40,000 psi to get the same effect (read MPF 258 of the 50 GI, and working pressure of the 10mm). Note: 308 have a thicker web case, and you really need to run a full supported chamber to prevent case blow out if you hot rod the 45. The downfall to the hot’d 45, just like the 50 GI, is going to be shortened frame life, and the whole trying to cock a pistol that has a 26 lb recoil spring. P.S. They need to use some real formulas and not the skewed up one that is listed. MPF of a 44 mag (vital shock 44 mag, 300 @1250) is 375, and there is not way in hell that you are going to get that out of a standard 1911 frame (1.220 bullet length). |
Aren't you talking about the .45 Super? There's another wildcat along the same lines. I can't recall the name right off the top of my head; .451 Roland? Something like that, anyway. |
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I own one and also own the .45 conversion for it. The gun is a first class hand fitted and accurized piece, you're paying for a super tight and accurate beast disguised as a regular 1911. It is a low pressure, low velocity round, from 700fps 300 grain to 800fps 275 grain, the recoil is barely heavier than a regular .45, but the feel of the gun is definetly unique and very addicting. So far I have popped 1500 rounds through it without a single failure, and it's the only pistol I'm interested to take to the range anymore. Besides being a crowd pleaser as a bonus, this pistol is either more accurate than my Kimber and my Les Baer, or it makes me shoot better than any handgun I ever owned. The ammo is a problem, however the brass can be reused many times (low pressure and thick walls) and the bullets are just .50AE and fairly easy to find. I have not purchased a die set, but probably will, as I save all my cases. The gun is expensive, but not really more than buying a quality piece and having it customized by a reputable smith. I really lost sleep over forking over the cash, but if you can get the cash and you want a unique super high quality 1911, this is it. Customer service is first class so far. I really hope the company succeeds, as I have a stake on the product in the form of continued ammo supply, but mainly I like to see success for a small american company that makes a superior and unique product. |
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It doesn't seem to do anything special. The 460 Rowland increases the 1911 up to or beyond 44 mag power. The only reason a person needs more power in a 1911 is for hunting with it. 45ACP is all that is necessary for self defense IMHO. If you can't drop them with a 45ACP, then you need more practice. |
Yeah, but that's a $365 option and + $115.00 labor charge if later retro-fitted to pistol!!!! |
And you point is? You're welcome to shoot mine if you're ever around these parts, you might be surprised. And true, it is an enthusiasts gus as yekimak said, not for everyone. |