Posted: 12/3/2007 4:48:58 AM EDT
| So, I went and got some 8 rnd Wilson mags and ammo for my SA V10. This is my first 1911 45. SA told me they did not reccomend +p be used in any of their weapons. However, the guys at the gun store talked me into some 165 grn +P powerball ammo. I read a review on this handgun and the author says he uses +p but, he went up to a 24 lb recoil spring from the stock 22 lb. So, if this is all that needs to be done to fire +p what is a good spring to use? Or is +p just not good to use in this weapon? |
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let me get this straight.... SA (the reputable manufacturer) told you not to use +P in their pistols, and now you're asking the opinions of a bunch of Chairforce Commandos?  OK--I'll bite. The +P isn't gonna hurt anything unless you feed it a steady diet of the stout loads. If you're only talking about the one box you bought, I wouldn't even bother to change the springs. I'm of the opinion that there isn't anything a super hot, 165gr +P+ can do that standard pressure 230gr Gold Dot or Ranger can't do just as well or better. Standard loads save wear and tear on the pistol, you don't have to modify anything to get it to run without battering itself to death, faster follow up shots...lots of reasons to use standard loads, and very few reasons to dink around with the .451 Mushroom Cloud IMO. |
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Lets get you straight from the beginning, +P rating is not the speed of the ammo, but the working pressure generated from the ammo. Having said that, Most factory 45 ACP +P ammo is loaded with gun powders burning in the HS-6 range, and will need at least 4.5" of barrel to get the powder to fully burn before running out of barrel (bullet exit). Now to be blunt, you have a pistol with a barrel much shorter than this, and when you try to run factory +p ammo in the pistol, a great deal of the un-burnt powder is just going to be blown back into the action causing it to bind up in a short time. Also to note, since more powder is left un-burnt, or burning past the muzzle, you will actually get bullet speeds with factory +P ammo that are slower than standard loaded ball ammo with faster burning powders. Myself, when producing +P ammo for the micros, the slowest powder that I will use is N-320. Anything slower than that is just a waste since it will not get a complete burn before the bullet runs out of barrel. So can you run +p factory loaded in the pistol, yes, but not in a sense that you will being doing any good since speeds will be lower than standard ammo, and the fact that the pistol is just going to be packed with un-burnt powder from doing so, hence the reason that S/A does not recommend +P ammo to be used in the pistol. Note: the micro's use a recoil type two-spring FLG system in the pistols. What you have read regarding standard length pistols/springs will not be the same for this pistol since it uses a different recoil type system (read you have to order replacement springs from S/A to fit the system, and they only offer the stock versions). |