Posted: 11/28/2006 3:16:26 PM EDT
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i have the new generation glock 23 GLOCK 23 around 2000-3000 rounds thru it usually shoot wolf FMJ today at the range the gun broke on me. the pin that holds the slide release in broke into two. IS this a common failure with glocks? This seems like a realibity issue? since i carry for personal protection and home defense. should i contact glock concerning this issue? 2000-3000 rounds into a glock does not seem ALOT at all by all means. Could this be a know problem with the 23?? ALot of LEO throughtout the US carry the G23. PLease give your input, thoughts, and opinions. Thanks Justin COLUMBIA, SC |
I agree with twonami; I have seen very few pins break on Glocks; hell, we had a 1st Gen G17 we nicknamed "Grandpa" that had one of those break, but after nearly 60,000 rounds through it (it was one of our range guns). Just give the guys at Glock a call, they'll send you a new pin, free of charge. |
Oh God...here we go again. First the kB now the pins. .40 is the devil I tell you. 
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How about a non-troll answer from a Glock certified armorer. If you are referring to the large pin that goes through the trigger and also hold the "slide stop lever" using the correct name for that part. The pin is called the trigger pin. The trigger pin has two slots or grooves machined into it. That slot/groove acts as the retainer for the slide lock. The reason there is two slots or grooves in that pin, is so it can be installed and no matter how it is put in, it can't be put in wrong. No matter which ends goes in first, there is a grove to hold the slide lock. So... the pin can not be installed wrong. No matter how it is installed, there will be a groove in the correct location for the slide lock. I have seen this pin break before, on a "high mileage" G17. I did not know it was broken until I detail stripped the pistol for annual inspection, and two pieces fell out when the pin was removed. So why did it break? Most likely because of a very small crack that formed and failed, and broke through where the slot or groove is machined. When you machine cut square corners into metal, metal that sees stress, a 90 degree cut gives a place for a crack to form at the center of the angle. Often parts that must have this type of cut, that sees stresses that can cause cracks, has the center of the 90 degree angle radiused to eliminate the 90 degree cut and blend it more to a "c" shape at the center of the angle. The "c" center does not give a place for a crack to start to form, where a "L" corner has a sharp angle cut and a crack can and in your case did over time form. So why not radius the cut on the trigger pins to eliminate this possibility of a crack forming in the center of the 90 degree cut. Cost of production over probability that the part will crack and break. A few trigger pins can and will break at those cuts, but the numbers are so few it basically is a non-issue. |
Not having my reading glasses on... I read the part number wrong on my Glock exploded drawing work pad. For old folk... 21 and 27 look a like when the room is poorly lit and the printing is small. I look to be sure I use the term used by Glock... and I read the number wrong. I stand corrected. part 21 on the G17 exploded drawing is Slide Lock, and part 27 is Slide stop lever. The part in question is sometimes known by different names depending on the manufacturer. Some call it a slide catch, slide lock, slide lock lever, slide release... so Looked before I typed and misread the part number. I was wrong about the part name used by Glock, but not about the trigger pin and the reason they break! Yep... you are right!!! The eyesight reading small print is not what it used to be. The work pad was on my desk, my armorer's manuals are down in the shop. Along with my reading glasses! |
That may work on other forums but here we like to keep the terminology correct for everyone so it is less confusing for new folks that want a correct answer and need to know what a part is called if by some chance they need to place an order for parts so they don't look like an uninformed idiot. DasRonin is correct as to why the trigger pins break. It is rare but it does happen. My term correction was not meant as an attack in anyway or to try and gain the title as "PC know it all". As anyone that has been here for any amount of time that I have made the same mistake in the past and will most likely make it again.  |
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