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1/6/2007 1:41:19 PM EDT
own lots of guns but no 1911's. finally going to buy my first  one(like AK-47's not my only one because  i know that a joke.] I want an inexepensive one. all my research leads to three guns.  Springfield mil-spec, taurus pt-1911, RIA tactital. all opinions will be great.even bad ones.
1/6/2007 2:20:09 PM EDT
[#1]
My vote goes to Springfield. Considering your post you can't go wrong...Price is good and overall function is great.
1/6/2007 2:35:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Link


I own one of these and I love it.
1/6/2007 8:33:37 PM EDT
[#3]

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Link


I own one of these and I love it.


That link is so misleading...that's a GI, not a mil-spec.

GI
Mil-Spec

-Jbot
1/6/2007 8:45:40 PM EDT
[#4]
I know you can get a GI for around $400.  I think the Taurus is a little more.  My GI is a good gun for the money.  I hear the Taurus is good as well.  I would not go with the RIA.
1/8/2007 11:45:21 AM EDT
[#5]
I have a Springfield GI and a RIA GI.
Both are good guns IMHO.

Of those you listed I would go with the RIA Tactical. Being a left handed it has alot a features I like and would need to add to the SA Milspec.

I have never been a fan of Taurus. Seen too many Taurus guns go back to the factory for their lifetime warranty.
1/8/2007 1:03:04 PM EDT
[#6]
The crowd over at www.1911forums.com love the Rock Islands.  They seem to be exceptionally good guns for the money.  As long as you stick to the mil-spec ones.

They literally have dozens of threads in the "Other 1911's" board raving about them.
1/8/2007 1:15:24 PM EDT
[#7]
As for RI -

I carry a 1911.
I have a 1991 Compact - Colt  -
I have a Kimber Team Match II

I bought a RI for fun - 5" barrel - full size  $330 OTD.

As for shooting -the RI

It Shoots better than my 1991 Compact
It is NOT as good as my Kimber - but the KIMBER is  SWEEEEEEEEET.

For having GI sights it is a great shooting gun.
The only limitations I have on it are the sights. The GIs are not great - but THE SHOOTER MAKES THE GUN BETTER even with its sight.

The gun is  as close to mil spec as you could ask for -----------
It looks and feels and cycles and fires GREAT.

In other words - If you are a good to decent shot - YOU WILL LIKE THE GUN  
and be even happier for only spending $330.

1/8/2007 2:11:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Of those you've listed my pick would be for the Sprinfield. Good basic 1911 and an excellant platform to expand should you wish.
1/8/2007 2:23:46 PM EDT
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Of those you've listed my pick would be for the Sprinfield. Good basic 1911 and an excellant platform to expand should you wish.


I agree with the SA GI, but for a cheap shooter the RIA isn't a bad deal either.
1/9/2007 4:54:36 AM EDT
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I know you can get a GI for around $400.  I think the Taurus is a little more.  My GI is a good gun for the money.  I hear the Taurus is good as well.  I would not go with the RIA.


Why?

I personally have a RIA.  Do you?  The reason I ask is that MOST (but not all) who have one seem to like it.  It's not a Kimber or Wilson...but it isn't 1/2 the quality...but it IS 1/2 the price.

Mine is accurate enough at realistic distances, fit and finish are good, and it does not rattle like a box of parts either.

Just my opinion, mind you.

ka
1/9/2007 3:27:14 PM EDT
[#11]

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I know you can get a GI for around $400.  I think the Taurus is a little more.  My GI is a good gun for the money.  I hear the Taurus is good as well.  I would not go with the RIA.


Why?

I personally have a RIA.  Do you?  The reason I ask is that MOST (but not all) who have one seem to like it.  It's not a Kimber or Wilson...but it isn't 1/2 the quality...but it IS 1/2 the price.

Mine is accurate enough at realistic distances, fit and finish are good, and it does not rattle like a box of parts either.

Just my opinion, mind you.

ka


The Kiev 88 medium format camera crowd says, "Half the quality at a tenth the price!"  

With the Springfield GI guns getting more and more expensive, the Rock Island GI guns are as cheap as you can go and still expect to have a gun that will probably work.  Most places are selling the Rock Island GI guns for $350 or less.  But also consider the Rock Island Tactical.  For another $40-$50, you get better sights, a beavertail and an ambi safety.

Another gun to consider is the STI Spartan.  It's made from a Rock Island frame, slide and barrel and STI trigger components.  Mine is beautiful.  It's tight, accurate and reliable.  And it's backed by one of the best companies in the 1911 business.  Price on the Spartan is $571.00 from most places.

Good Spartan info!
1/10/2007 9:26:42 AM EDT
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Look around for a NORINCO. You will not be disappointed. You can usually find them for under $400.
1/10/2007 9:47:10 AM EDT
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Look around for a NORINCO. You will not be disappointed. You can usually find them for under $400.


That would be BEST, but good luck finding one.

I'd definitely go for the Taurus.  I haven't heard a bad thing about them.  Either way you're getting a Brazilian 1911, it just seems that the Taurus 1911s are more consistant than the Springies.
1/10/2007 9:53:54 AM EDT
[#14]

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Look around for a NORINCO. You will not be disappointed. You can usually find them for under $400.


+1

Like markm said they're tough to find, but keep an eye on the auction sites long anough and a good one will pop up.
1/10/2007 10:58:00 AM EDT
[#15]
Yes, the Norinco guns are a great value.  I bought one last year off gunbroker for $310.00.
1/10/2007 11:13:26 AM EDT
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Yes, the Norinco guns are a great value.  I bought one last year off gunbroker for $310.00.


I remember when I got mine NEW for $267.  It was about when the background crap just started and so I had to wait a few days for a green light.

I told the FFL not to say anything specific on my Answering machine cuz My Girlfriend would know I bought another gun.  So he leaves this message...  "It's in... you're clear... you can come down any time." or some such nonsense...

Real smooth, Snappy!  Of course she got the message and decoded it in short order.  
1/10/2007 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Look around for a NORINCO. You will not be disappointed. You can usually find them for under $400.


That would be BEST, but good luck finding one.

I'd definitely go for the Taurus.  I haven't heard a bad thing about them.  Either way you're getting a Brazilian 1911, it just seems that the Taurus 1911s are more consistant than the Springies.


Come again? i know that Taurus is Brazillian and NORINCO is Chinese(made on colt machinery). Are you saying that Springfield 1911's are made in Brazil?
1/10/2007 12:08:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Found one on GUNBROKER. $470 is the minimum bid

NORINCO for sale
1/10/2007 12:11:10 PM EDT
[#19]
Yes, Springfield only assembles their 1911's here with the minimum number of small parts to get under the ATFs definition of domestic made.
1/10/2007 12:21:27 PM EDT
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Yes, Springfield only assembles their 1911's here with the minimum number of small parts to get under the ATFs definition of domestic made.


Thank you, I did not know that.
1/10/2007 2:48:20 PM EDT
[#21]
I have the Taurus and love it.

I have shot the Rock Island and it shoots. I like the Taurus MUCH better.

Sportsmans Wharehouse has a Para GI for under $400. If it is as good as other Paras, it would be a safe bet.
1/10/2007 3:02:13 PM EDT
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Look around for a NORINCO. You will not be disappointed. You can usually find them for under $400.


That would be BEST, but good luck finding one.

I'd definitely go for the Taurus.  I haven't heard a bad thing about them.  Either way you're getting a Brazilian 1911, it just seems that the Taurus 1911s are more consistant than the Springies.


Come again? i know that Taurus is Brazillian and NORINCO is Chinese(made on colt machinery). Are you saying that Springfield 1911's are made in Brazil?


yea...at least the frames mostly nowadays are-both my SA 1911s were marked "Imbel, Brazil"

i'd choose the SA mil-spec, norinco, taurus and RI in that order
1/10/2007 3:03:31 PM EDT
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Sportsmans Wharehouse has a Para GI for under $400. If it is as good as other Paras, it would be a safe bet.


Para Ordnance makes a GI model?  When did that happen?
1/10/2007 3:23:14 PM EDT
[#24]
? I saw it this week. Laynard loop and all.
1/10/2007 3:32:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Springfield or anyone who uses series 70 design. Series 80 not as good.  Kimber is slightly different than series 70 or 80.  Personally, my next 1911, I will spend as much as I need to to get it fully customized.  Nothing like getting exactly what your want.
1/10/2007 3:36:15 PM EDT
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? I saw it this week. Laynard loop and all.


You sure it was Para Ornance and not Auto Ordnace?
1/10/2007 3:41:57 PM EDT
[#27]
RIA,buoght mine for 160 from a transfering GI.50 rnds thru the pipe,flawless finish.i always wanted a 1911 but the prices always kinda set me back,this was a deal from the gun gods.i am more than impressed with the accuracy and cycling.it does however need a beaver tail safety and combat hammer,that is all i will ever do to this gun.
1/10/2007 3:48:09 PM EDT
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RIA,buoght mine for 160 from a transfering GI.50 rnds thru the pipe,flawless finish.i always wanted a 1911 but the prices always kinda set me back,this was a deal from the gun gods.i am more than impressed with the accuracy and cycling.it does however need a beaver tail safety and combat hammer,that is all i will ever do to this gun.


Wow!  How do you sleep at night?
1/10/2007 4:18:14 PM EDT
[#29]

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? I saw it this week. Laynard loop and all.


You sure it was Para Ornance and not Auto Ordnace?


Could have been. Sorry. I'll take a closer look this weekend.
1/14/2007 10:16:28 AM EDT
[#30]

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Yes, the Norinco guns are a great value.  I bought one last year off gunbroker for $310.00.


I told the FFL not to say anything specific on my Answering machine cuz My Girlfriend would know I bought another gun.  So he leaves this message...  "It's in... you're clear... you can come down any time." or some such nonsense...



I guess that's better than, "This is the Dr's office.  Your test results came back positive.  Stop in and see me and we'll take care of you."
1/15/2007 9:28:22 AM EDT
[#31]
My choice would be:
1. Rock Island
2. Taurus
3.Springfield
1/15/2007 1:27:04 PM EDT
[#32]
I was in your situation a few months ago, and I went with the Taurus.

My Taurus is great, much closer to my "ideal" 1911 than the other 2.