Posted: 12/9/2009 7:48:40 PM EDT
| So I have loved the 5-7 for years now and fired them a few times. I am in the process of buying on hopefully at the begining of the year. But my question is I am thinking of putting it on my CCW and just curious as to what people have to say about them for a carry gun? Everything from stopping power<compared to a .40, or .45>, issues, advantages, good holsters, and so on. I normally carry a 1911 so looking for someone that has some time with the gun, thanks! |
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Don't know much about it myself. Here's some info about ballistics (just scroll down instead of opening the excel files)... http://www.fivesevenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5743
I'm sure you could find a lot more info on that forum too. |
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The Five-seveN is a range toy and a conversation piece.
NOT a carry pistol. 5.7x28 is grossly underpowdered and underweight. Also, in before some idiot comes in a posts "Well, it worked at Ft. Hood." 
Yeah and this worked at V-Tech: 
Does that mean it's a good carry pistol? Seriously though, stick with a proven firearm in a major caliber with modern JHPs for defense. Leave the Five-seveN in the safe. |
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Yeah and this worked at V-Tech: http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/walther_p22_3.4.jpg Does that mean it's a good carry pistol? If you are going to ask that, do mention that was not the only handgun used in that shooting... he also had a Glock 19. The FiveSeven is a decent pistol. High capacity, low recoil, and flat ballistics out to 100 yards. With the correct ammo, it is a good weapon. I would not buy one for two reasons. First, I live in a state with a 15 round magazine limit (they are either 10 or 20 round magazines available). And second, ammo will likely become non-existent in the next few years. |
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what is this "stopping power" stuff? Is that better than regular power? Where can I buy a kilowatt of the finest "stopping power"? It's a generic term to describe how "lethal" a given bullet is compared to another. If there's a better term, I sure don't know what it is. Sure, you go on and explain in detail the difference between caliber X and Y, talking about their would channel size, penetration, etc., but like I said, "stopping power" (at least in my eyes) is generic term to describe all of the above. 
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Yeah and this worked at V-Tech: http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/walther_p22_3.4.jpg Does that mean it's a good carry pistol? If you are going to ask that, do mention that was not the only handgun used in that shooting... he also had a Glock 19. The FiveSeven is a decent pistol. High capacity, low recoil, and flat ballistics out to 100 yards. With the correct ammo, it is a good weapon. I would not buy one for two reasons. First, I live in a state with a 15 round magazine limit (they are either 10 or 20 round magazines available). And second, ammo will likely become non-existent in the next few years. From what I understand nearly all of the murders he committed were with the Walther. |
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Check in the FN forums, there are some there who use it a CCW. Most use this ammo and say it has great perfomance.
5.7 ammo |
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5.7 is a great rifle round with considerable penetration.
You'll be able to get off a lot of follow-up shots which is good. Now the bad: You ask about Stopping Power. Small, high velocity rounds could be lethal but that would require brain/spinal shots (not easy in the fast moving environment of a gunfight), so you really have to rely on center mass shots. Here you need to hit major organs/blood vessels to cause rapid loss of BP or heavy blood loss that will lead to loss of BP. The problem with small rounds is the wound channel is narrow. Larger, mushrooming rounds like .45 and (my favorite) 10mm will likely contact more critical blood vessels, organs, etc as they pass through the body. Still, the more shots on target the higher the chance you have of a round causing 'stopping power' or which quickly disables any attacker and will likely cause rapid death. You need a weapon that you can fire repeatedly, has a large caliber and you must practice shooting with one hand in 5 to 7 round groups at center mass. In a real life and death gun battle you'll not likely have time to do the two handed 'intellectual' shooting you see many practicing at the range. There was a great article in G&A a month or two ago about just this and the illusion of stopping power. Again, the truth is you need to put as many rounds on center mass as possible in as short a time as possible. Your fancy (I own one too) 5.7 will penetrate but you'll be a lot 'luckier' with .40, .45 or 10mm. |
| Thanks for the input all... Like I said my daily carry is a 1911 with 230 hydrashocks. So im really not needing to look for a new gun. But was just curious as to how it would hold up in a carry situation. I still plan to buy one just cause I think they are a fun gun to shoot at the range.. Thats why i was asking to get some input on anyone that has used it for more than just the range. Just seemed to me like with the right type of amo may not be the worst carry gun. Think ill just stick with my 1911 cause well i just trust my life to it. Thanks all once again |
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Just seemed to me like with the right type of amo may not be the worst carry gun. Think ill just stick with my 1911 cause well i just trust my life to it. Thanks all once again http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19913 I think you are making the right choice. The 5.7 was designed to fill a specific niche in the armament of military and police agencies. Within that niche it is useful...outside of it, not so much. I've met officers who have used the 5.7 from a P90 in OIS incidents. There is a department in the US that, to the best of my knowledge, has more OIS incidents using the P90 than anyone else. They have multiple accounts of some pretty spectacular failures with the weapon, including a bad guy who took a burst from a SWAT officer using a P90 who responded to being shot not by falling down and gurgling his last, but by essentially telling the officer to knock it off. Not exactly the reaction you want when you shoot somebody. |
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Thanks for the input all... Like I said my daily carry is a 1911 with 230 hydrashocks. So im really not needing to look for a new gun. But was just curious as to how it would hold up in a carry situation. I still plan to buy one just cause I think they are a fun gun to shoot at the range.. Thats why i was asking to get some input on anyone that has used it for more than just the range. Just seemed to me like with the right type of amo may not be the worst carry gun. Think ill just stick with my 1911 cause well i just trust my life to it. Thanks all once again Good call but PRACTICE one handed fast groups of 5+ rounds at center mass. 
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