Posted: 1/27/2010 1:52:05 PM EDT
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do i need i 3.5 lb trigger job on a glock? what will it do to the glock and will it improve the accuracy?
anyone has any experience on it? 
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The 3.5 connector is good and bad. First of all, Clock now calls it a 4.5 I believe, because that is actually closer to what you get. It does indeed make it lighter, but IMO it makes it kinda 'mushy.' I prefer the way the 5.5 breaks, but the 3.5 is lighter. The good thing is that they are cheap, and if you don't like it, you are only out 10 to 15 bucks. Will it improve accuracy? It did for me, because I was able to manipulate the trigger a little easier. Try it and see.
**CAUTION––MY OPINION ONLY** Glocks are as reliable as a brick until you start messing with them. In my experience, once you start changing out springs, modding the trigger etc., they start to become more prone to malfunctions (not WILL, just more likely). That said, a factory 3.5 connector by itself, or a decent aftermarket one, should cause you no problems. |
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I have a LWD 3.5 connector in my 23, LOVE IT! It has really helped me improve my groups. It is a much smoother pull too. But for the 3.5 connector to really shine, you should look into a 6lb comp. trigger spring to go along with the 3.5 connector. The 6lb connector works with you, not against you when you are pulling the trigger.
I believe this is one of the few mods that actually makes a glock "better", when it comes to accuarcy. |
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Have the 3.5 ghost trigger on my G19, and I really like it. I'm not convinced its all the way down to 3.5#, but its a nicer pull and I especially like the reset.
I'm curious to try some others, but as much as I like the one I currently have, not sure there is a reason to? |
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The 3.5 connector is good and bad. First of all, Clock now calls it a 4.5 I believe, because that is actually closer to what you get. It does indeed make it lighter, but IMO it makes it kinda 'mushy.' I prefer the way the 5.5 breaks, but the 3.5 is lighter. Big +1 on the mushy feel. I prefer the break and reset of the standard 5.5. |
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I have the LW 3.5lb unit in my 20 & like it a LOT better than OEM. I like it because while it still stacks, it stacks at a better, lighter point in the trigger pull. It's been 100% with no misfires at all using GA Arms ammo. After shooting this unit, I can't imagine going back to Glock OEM, IMO.
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I have the LW 3.5lb unit in my 20 & like it a LOT better than OEM. I like it because while it still stacks, it stacks at a better, lighter point in the trigger pull. It's been 100% with no misfires at all using GA Arms ammo. After shooting this unit, I can't imagine going back to Glock OEM, IMO. My .o2 thanks for all your opinion, i just drop off my glock to my gunsmith, have him do whatever he wants...can't wait to try it!!! 
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The 3.5lb connector will do nothing to enhance the mechanical accuracy of the pistol.
It will make your job easier when putting rounds down range and may help you get a tighter group. I run a Lone Wolf 3.5 on my 19 carry gun. Its a nice, subtle, difference compared to the stock connector IMO. Before you start modding the heck out of your pistol determine what your goal is- what do you want to use the pistol for and what are you willing to sacrifice. |
| I have one on my G27 along with the .25 trigger job. I really like the smooth pull that these two mods give you. It "can" make "you" more accurate, but not the gun. It helped my accuracy because I no longer jerk the trigger as bad. Just make sure you are using proper trigger techniques. |
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do i need i 3.5 lb trigger job on a glock? No. what will it do to the glock and will it improve the accuracy? It will reduce the weight of the trigger pull slightly. It will not help accuracy unless you have no idea what proper trigger control is, in which case it will benefit accuracy somewhat only because you're doing it wrong and the 3.5 connector makes for slightly better results when you're doing it wrong. |
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Chances are it will improve your accuracy. Internet marksmen can shoot one ragged hole at 25 yd with a 10lb trigger, as for me I'll take my Ghost. For 99% of people, a lighter trigger = smaller groups.
Do not take this to mean you can neglect your practice time, without practice you can put whatever connector you want to on there and you will still suck. You may suck a bit less, but you'll still suck. Also if it's not too late, I'd avoid the Glock factory 3.5 connector; it's mushy, vague, and the reset is just as long as the 5.5. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| I'm not a big fan of the 3.5# connectors although I've left them in my G34 and G35. With the Glock triggers, there's no such thing as a free lunch. You get something and you give something up. The 3.5# connector yields a lighter pull because of the changed angle of the connector resulting in a longer more spongy break. I prefer the cleaner, more precise break of the stock connector. |
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The 3.5 connector is good and bad. First of all, Clock now calls it a 4.5 I believe, because that is actually closer to what you get. It does indeed make it lighter, but IMO it makes it kinda 'mushy.' I prefer the way the 5.5 breaks, but the 3.5 is lighter. Big +1 on the mushy feel. I prefer the break and reset of the standard 5.5. I used to insist on changing out the standard connector for the lighter one, and guess that I got used to the mushy feel. About 2 years ago I had a friend who thought that his sights were off on his G22 because he was shooting low and left, and I have a sight pusher... so I shot it and the sights were not off, not even a tiny bit. Anyhow, his glock had the standard 5.5# connector still in it, and I absolutely loved the firmer feel and most importantly the clean break. I came home and changed all of mine back to the standard connectors. I have tried Glock factory, scherer, Lone Wolf, and ghost inc. The only one that i did not like was the scherer... ghost was the best, but I sold those already. I have a baggie somewhere with probably ten 3.5# connectors. If you want to try either a factory or Lone Wolf 3.5 connector, PM me your address and I will send you one, no charge. That way, you can decide if you like the feel without it costing you anything. |
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It will reduce the weight of the trigger pull slightly. It will not help accuracy unless you have no idea what proper trigger control is, in which case it will benefit accuracy somewhat only because you're doing it wrong and the 3.5 connector makes for slightly better results when you're doing it wrong. Allow me to politely but strongly disagree with your premise. In fact, I contend that a lighter trigger pull will decrease accuracy if one is using poor trigger technique, IMO. |
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Allow me to politely but strongly disagree with your premise. In fact, I contend that a lighter trigger pull will decrease accuracy if one is using poor trigger technique, IMO. It's basic physics. If someone slaps the trigger then a lighter trigger will result in less torque applied to the weapon, which will not disrupt the sight picture (assuming one exists) as much as with a heavier trigger. Top competitions shooters like Todd Jarret and Rob Leatham slap the unholy hell out of the trigger...and yet they make hits because of two factors: 1. They've shot so much they don't anticipate recoil. 2. They use extremely light triggers (often 2 pounds or less) on relatively heavy weapons so that the weapon doesn't move when slapping the bejeezus out of the trigger. A light trigger is more forgiving than a heavier one....especially if your trigger control sucks. That's why competition shooters want the lightest trigger they can get. That's primarily why a number of elite military units stuck with the 1911 well past its prime, because of how easy they were to shoot with that relatively light, crisp trigger that moved straight back into the grip of the gun. |
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So is it possible to get a lighter pull but still retain a crisp letoff? If so, what combo of connector / spring set up?
The killer letoff and reset are a big plus for the glocks... a big reason why I think M&P's, as good a gun as they are, are still #2 in comparison. |
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So is it possible to get a lighter pull but still retain a crisp letoff? If so, what combo of connector / spring set up? The killer letoff and reset are a big plus for the glocks... a big reason why I think M&P's, as good a gun as they are, are still #2 in comparison. I don't know if I would describe the Glock trigger break as "crisp", but the various 3.5 connectors usually don't change the characteristics of the letoff very much on their own. They may shorten the reset point somewhat. Generally speaking I prefer the stock Glock trigger on my guns. |
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Has anybody tried the 5.5 with a 6lb. spring? yes I have, to me there was no notable difference with either the 5.5 or the 3.5# connectors. There is also no evidence that an aftermarket company will have a superior quality spring to justify changing out the OEM spring. I own a dozen glocks, and they are all identical...bone stock other than the sights... some of the sights are Glock factory night sights, and some are meprolites... it depends on who has what on sale when I buy a new glock. All in all, there is a reason that we talk about glock perfection... there is just not anything that you need to do to them that makes them "better". I always add night sights to my pistols just as an extra aid in case I am ever in a situation where having glowing sights might make the difference between life and death, but I am not under any illusion that they are 100% required and that any gun without them will get you killed... it is just a personal preference. Buy a Glock. Take it apart and get all of the copper crap and excess oil off of it. Polish every contact point in the trigger group. Oil properly and reassemble. Shoot the snot out of it and clean it every 500 rounds or so. Be happy. If you want a gun to tinker with, buy a 1911. |
Okay, now we're getting more involved here. I've tried "-" Connectors, if only for academic purposes. Most recently a Ghost. My observations: Trigger pull was LIGHT............lighter than I'd want to carry with........all my Glocks are "working" Glocks.  To me, the take-up was very light, BUT the "break" at the end of the trigger pull was less-defined, sort of mushy. The reset was NOT as well-defined as when using a stock setup, and not NEARLY as well-defined as when using my preferred setup, which is NY1 Trigger Spring w/ stock 5.5 Connector. (The crisp reset is one of the reasons I prefer my usual setup with the NY1 spring.) That reset is very important for rapid shooting. I prefer my own setup, by far...................only way I'd use a "-" Connector would be in conjunction with a NY1 Trigger Spring.......tried that too................take-up was very light, but the "break" was more crisp..........and reset wasn't bad either. I'm not sold on it, but I DO see why so many folks prefer it. |
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Man, I would hate to feel what that "mushy" trigger feels like with a 3.5 connector in it. The bone stock Glock trigger feels mushy as hell to me to begin with. That and the 2x4 grip are what kept me from buying a Glock when I started looking for a pull/point/squeeze pistol for the nightstand a while back. |
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Man, I would hate to feel what that "mushy" trigger feels like with a 3.5 connector in it. The bone stock Glock trigger feels mushy as hell to me to begin with. That and the 2x4 grip are what kept me from buying a Glock when I started looking for a pull/point/squeeze pistol for the nightstand a while back. All valid points except for the 3.5lb being more mushy, IMO. To me the 3.5lb feels lighter & stacks less than the OEM or higher springs. |
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I run lone wolf 3.5 connectors and competition trigger springs in my g19 and g34. Compared to the glock 3.5 connector that came with the g34, the lw 3.5 and comp spring have a crisper break and a very slightly shorter reset imo. i think that's what i did on mine...lw 3.5 plus competition spring kit(3 springs) from brownells...haven't try yet, hope i like it!
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