Posted: 6/30/2014 4:55:41 PM EDT
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hope someone can shed some light on these.....
i bought used kimber desert warrior and was shooting it for the first time. i ran about 40 rounds or reloads (8.7grs of no.5 w/ 230gr JHP) and as i was shagging brass, i found these 3 cases. i never had a stoppage or anything that would indicated a problem. truthfully i dont see how its even possible they could have cleared but i was in an area where there was no other shooting traffic and the mixed head stamps and primmer color was the same as all the other cases. i thought it looks like the case hung up on ejection and the slide closed, and jammed the case mouth into the chamber hood but that should cause stoppage, no? 
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| I'm going to guess the ejector isn't kicking the cases out. Maybe the slide isn't going back quite far enough. The cases are riding the slide forward until they hit the barrel shroud and get tossed out that way. The empties are probably getting pushed up off the extractor by the incoming round. Where do the empties land when they look like that? |
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thanks, that was pretty much my thinking too, if not convey so.
i didnt notice these exact ones landing but most empties were about 3-4 feet away and at about 2 o'clock. all the other empties had a pretty decent ding in the side of the case too. i thought that might be due to the internal extractor claw. these reloads were pretty stout at 8.7 grs of No. 5 and the recoil spring feels like a pretty heavy one although the the previous owner said all he ever shot was commercial ball which would be less hot than mine. so if his ammo was weaker it would do it to him and he claims no, i kinda know the guy from other local dealings so sorta trust him but i did get a remmy 870 from him once that had the bad chambers from the factory and he pleaded the 5th. i have other springs to try out but its its an extractor tuning thing, i am going to have to have a smith work that. |
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I have a Warrior which shoots everything great. Sounds like the guy couldn't figure out what was wrong so instead of finding a good gunsmith he unloaded on you.
Try some decent 230 ball factory ammo before you go replacing parts. If you feel the need to replace the recoil spring get a Wolffs 16 or 18lb. spring. Kimber 5" .45 come with a 16lb. wolff spring from the factory. |
| Are you shooting at a public range? The reason I ask is if you are sure these are your pieces of brass? This does not look like brass that would come from a gun with no failures. I have never even seen a failure in a handgun damage brass this bad. This looks like someone crushed some cases on a progressive press in station one... However, not sure how they would have made it to the range to be picked up. |
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I have a Warrior which shoots everything great. Sounds like the guy couldn't figure out what was wrong so instead of finding a good gunsmith he unloaded on you. Try some decent 230 ball factory ammo before you go replacing parts. If you feel the need to replace the recoil spring get a Wolffs 16 or 18lb. spring. Kimber 5" .45 come with a 16lb. wolff spring from the factory. This pistol looks like it has been shoot quite a bit actually. I have some wolf springs from way back when too. |
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I've had that happen, it was a Colt that had a really loose extractor, it'd drop cartridges down into the magazine on extraction. You'll probably notice only a few cases out of all of them like that...on mine, it would only happen on the last round or so of the mag. It would bounce off the mag lip and punch it into the top of the slide. It only happened on the last cartridge because it would slide over the next round on the way back and eventually contact the ejector that way...but on the last round, there was no next round to ride, so...
It also wouldn't eject for shit. I wound up having to shape and replace a new ejector for it along with the extractor. Check your extractor, make sure it's doing it's job right. The easiest way to check is to load a dummy round, chamber it, drop the magazine, and slowly draw the slide back. If the cartridge falls out the magwell...time to tension the extractor. |
| There are several things I have seen cause that, and it could even be a combination. Check the ejector to make sure it is not loose. Usually for me it has been the extractor is too tight, so it holds onto the case too long. It is also a common problem I have seen in my Kimbers from the factory... |