Posted: 3/2/2010 6:39:47 AM EDT
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my springfield GI 4 inch is a great shooter, however, recently, when I put in a full mag and let the slide go forward, the top bullet in the magazine gets stuck on the feed ramp and doesn't chamber. When I tap check on the bottom of the grip, it seats the magazine up enough to chamber the round. it does this with hollow points and ball ammo. this is my first 1911, is this normal?
it does this with both the standard 7 round mags and my 2 chip mcormick power mags eta-for the purists, no I do let the slide rack forward on an empty chamber 
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This is issue could be a number of different issues.
First are you riding the slide forward? When you pull the slide back do you release and let it go forward on its own force or do you hold on to it and slow it down like you do with an empty chamber? Could have and extractor that is not tensioned correctly or not radius-ed correctly. Have you tried a higher end mag like Wilson Compact ETM's/47D's or Tripp Research Heavier recoil spring might remedy this but I am not putting much faith in that. Do you have a recoil buffer in the pistol? |
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First are you riding the slide forward?
i let it slide forward on its own Have you tried a higher end mag like Wilson Compact ETM's/47D's or Tripp Research I was told the Chip Mcormick mags WERE high end, or at least the price was (10 rounder) Do you have a recoil buffer in the pistol? i don't think so, the only thing I have changed on the gun is the grips |
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Its doing this with all your mags ?? So, that's ruled out. So excluding the recoil spring what could have changed in your 1911 ? btw: CMCs are always on sale. Top line magazines are rarely on sale. The what could have changed is a test question. He tried the 7 round mags with it and 10 round CMC. I am still thinking the extractor is not tension right or the magazine. We did rule out the riding the slide forward. Sometimes Midway will knock a few bucks off Wilson mags. |
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Its doing this with all your mags ?? So, that's ruled out. So excluding the recoil spring what could have changed in your 1911 ? btw: CMCs are always on sale. Top line magazines are rarely on sale. The what could have changed is a test question. He tried the 7 round mags with it and 10 round CMC. I am still thinking the extractor is not tension right or the magazine. We did rule out the riding the slide forward. Sometimes Midway will knock a few bucks off Wilson mags. Soo, if all of the magazines have been tried, what's that leave ? You ruled out riding the slide forward. Sometimes, and a few bucks.... hhmmm. That's not on sale every week is it ? Whens the last time you saw Tripp's on sale ? Let me know when they have a sale please ! There's nothing wrong with SA mags, btw. Think about the history on this board with SA extractors. Let me know if you need more hnts. 
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Its doing this with all your mags ?? So, that's ruled out. So excluding the recoil spring what could have changed in your 1911 ? btw: CMCs are always on sale. Top line magazines are rarely on sale. The what could have changed is a test question. He tried the 7 round mags with it and 10 round CMC. I am still thinking the extractor is not tension right or the magazine. We did rule out the riding the slide forward. Sometimes Midway will knock a few bucks off Wilson mags. Soo, if all of the magazines have been tried, what's that leave ? You ruled out riding the slide forward. Sometimes, and a few bucks.... hhmmm. That's not on sale every week is it ? Whens the last time you saw Tripp's on sale ? Let me know when they have a sale please ! There's nothing wrong with SA mags, btw. Think about the history on this board with SA extractors. Let me know if you need more hnts.
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This is issue could be a number of different issues. First are you riding the slide forward? When you pull the slide back do you release and let it go forward on its own force or do you hold on to it and slow it down like you do with an empty chamber? Could have and extractor that is not tensioned correctly or not radius-ed correctly. Have you tried a higher end mag like Wilson Compact ETM's/47D's or Tripp Research Heavier recoil spring might remedy this but I am not putting much faith in that. Do you have a recoil buffer in the pistol? Read what I said first off!!!! We are trying to help this guy not be a Negative Nancy to each other. |
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my springfield GI 4 inch is a great shooter, however, recently, when I put in a full mag and let the slide go forward, the top bullet in the magazine gets stuck on the feed ramp and doesn't chamber. When I tap check on the bottom of the grip, it seats the magazine up enough to chamber the round. it does this with hollow points and ball ammo. this is my first 1911, is this normal? it does this with both the standard 7 round mags and my 2 chip mcormick power mags eta-for the purists, no I do let the slide rack forward on an empty chamber Ok, I've been called a lot of things and a Negative Nancy is probably one of the nicest. Thank You Edge for being so Polite. Soo. Lets dissect the OP 1) my springfield GI 4 inch is a great shooter. Ok, this seems to alleviate any geometry or ammunition problems. 2) however, recently . Something has changed quickly. 3) when I put in a full mag and let the slide go forward, the top bullet in the magazine gets stuck on the feed ramp and doesn't chamber. When I tap check on the bottom of the grip, it seats the magazine up enough to chamber the round. This speaks to the short distance of travel between the first round in a loaded magazine and the lack of inertia because of the short travel between that round and extractor claw. With a tap on the bottom of a magazine the inertia from that tap and a compressed spring is enough to get round past extractor claw. 4) it does this with hollow points and ball ammo. Speaks for itself, not an ammunition related problem. 5) this is my first 1911, is this normal? I can remember being new to the platform and nothing is more aggravating than inconsistent answers that took me in circles and led me to waste money on things for my 1911 that were not needed. 6) it does this with both the standard 7 round mags and my 2 chip mcormick power mags. I think every one knows what I think of CMC magazine followers by now. But the problem isn't magazine related. The problem exists with all the magazines irregardless of manufacture. Negative Nancy ? OK. |
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my springfield GI 4 inch is a great shooter, however, recently, when I put in a full mag and let the slide go forward, the top bullet in the magazine gets stuck on the feed ramp and doesn't chamber. When I tap check on the bottom of the grip, it seats the magazine up enough to chamber the round. it does this with hollow points and ball ammo. this is my first 1911, is this normal? it does this with both the standard 7 round mags and my 2 chip mcormick power mags eta-for the purists, no I do let the slide rack forward on an empty chamber Ok, I've been called a lot of things and a Negative Nancy is probably one of the nicest. Thank You Edge for being so Polite. Soo. Lets dissect the OP 1) my springfield GI 4 inch is a great shooter. Ok, this seems to alleviate any geometry or ammunition problems. 2) however, recently . Something has changed quickly. 3) when I put in a full mag and let the slide go forward, the top bullet in the magazine gets stuck on the feed ramp and doesn't chamber. When I tap check on the bottom of the grip, it seats the magazine up enough to chamber the round. This speaks to the short distance of travel between the first round in a loaded magazine and the lack of inertia because of the short travel between that round and extractor claw. With a tap on the bottom of a magazine the inertia from that tap and a compressed spring is enough to get round past extractor claw. 4) it does this with hollow points and ball ammo. Speaks for itself, not an ammunition related problem. 5) this is my first 1911, is this normal? I can remember being new to the platform and nothing is more aggravating than inconsistent answers that took me in circles and led me to waste money on things for my 1911 that were not needed. 6) it does this with both the standard 7 round mags and my 2 chip mcormick power mags. I think every one knows what I think of CMC magazine followers by now. But the problem isn't magazine related. The problem exists with all the magazines irregardless of manufacture. Negative Nancy ? OK. Sorry had to... Plus just getting angry and getting into a fight throwing different cut downs at each other would have just been pointless. I have no need to get angry and make you angry in the process by me reacting and saying some really rude. So I said something to make you laugh and be a little stumped but I am defiantly with you on the CMC mags. Trying higher end mags is going to be the most cost effective thing to try at this point short of you taking the pistol to a gun smith and get charged to go over it. 47D ETM Tripp Research |
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