Posted: 1/24/2003 3:55:37 AM EDT
| i have a fixed sight g19 glock, what are the best night sight options for this gun(price&quality) |
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Heinie Straight Eight Sights are the ones I use and recommend. Sure you can find cheaper sights like Meprolight but these are the best. www.heinie.com/  
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I've got 'em on my USP45. very nice. I've got 3 green dots on mine. I've heard talk to get a different colour for the front (ie: orange) to differentiate front from back. I looked at my setup in the dark and it is virtually impossible (for me) to get the dots out of order.. the wrist position gives it away if it is. YMMV |
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The Meps I installed on my 19 are more than adequate. The originals dimmed to uselessness, they were early Meps. I want to add for the sake of discussion, not flaming, my observation on those heinie straight eights. I don't care for those grooves as something else just to keep clean and having only 2 tritium capsules, shouldn't they be cheaper? Just an another observation, elevation would vary in darkness too, depending on distance of the two vertical dots from each other. (no horizonal referance points). OK, open fire, I'll duck.  |
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anothergene; No flame, but: The grooves are there to...supposedly...break up light and cut glare during daylight use. They work fairly well for this, if it matters to the shooter. The Heinie's ARE cheaper since they cost more in non-n.s. form to begin with than, say, Trijicons would without the ampules. You also pay a little for Heinie's name...that's ok, he's got to make a living, too. They are really more of a target-type daylight sight since their original purpose was to simulate the BoMar sight picture in a fixed sight platform. This is fine if your eyes are still sharp enough to pick them up quickly in daylight...mine are a little tired these days, so I prefer something different. Yes, elevation will be off somewhat with the two dots, but even a fat guy is taller than he is wide, so as long as you are "pretty close" you will get good hits across a normal sized room. It is the front sight that really matters in close-range handgun action anyway...elevation won't be off very much at 10-20ft. I have a couple of guns set up with only the front sight having a tritum insert...works fine. I am currently having a set of the AO "big Dot" n.s.'s (son-in-law calls them "Braille" sights!)installed on a pistol and will see what that brings. Until now, my personal favorite is the Novak rear with "bar" insert and front dot. Two big advantages not often mentioned for night sights are that: 1) They allow you to more quickly "orient" yourself to the gun if it is not in the holster, as with many home defense guns..."where is it? which way is the grip? etc." which helps prevent fumbling, and/or if dropped in a struggle in the dark, all this under high levels of stress; and 2) they make hitting much easier in dim-light and/or rapidly changing light situations, such as an officer on a traffic stop with strobe or rotating bar lights and passing traffic, etc. I have had sporatic results with Meps, and uniformly excellent results with Trijicons, Novaks and Heinies. PT's stuff sucks, and no experience yet with AO's but reports are good so far. I have no issue with those who feel better with different colors on front and rear sights, but my personal opinion is that it is more of a sales gimmick than a real help. JMO. |
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After mass quantities of coffee (generic instant, microwaved) that observation popped out in my artificially induced awakness state. Thanks for bearing with me, ikor. I could see the front in another color, for those under stressful situations, orientating the front either right or left, still making the 3 dot row, but missing the intended target. And yes, Heinie IS quality and should command a steeper fare, without question. |
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From the "What It's Worth Dept." I prefer the Mepro night sights as they have large white outlines so in the daytime they perform very similar to the standards three-white dot combat sights. I have them on my Glock 23 and had Trijicons on my Glock 21. The Trijicons did not have the white outline treatment and were basically black on black target sights. The Trijicons also seemed smaller and the Meps were definitely brighter The one danger of putting nights sights on your G19 is that you'll want them on all of your serious handguns... |
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How's the service on Mepro stuff? Currently I'm a Trij owner who's very happy (one of my front sights died and they turned it around in a week for $0), but you never know when you might get a good deal on something with Mepro installed. Other than that issue (which I hope will be reported on shortly), both companies appear to have excellent reputations. |
Your ignorance has showed on this post. The tritium tubes on Heinies are installed by Trijicon. I realize this isn't generaly known information. But your statment means to me that you have never owned Heinie night sights. |
Really? Where?
I'm well aware of this fact. Trijicon lamps are installed in a number of sights, including Heinie and Novak. What's your point? I never said that these were bad. I consider them to be just as good as standard Trijicons. I was contrasting them to other brands of nightsights, such as Mepros, MMCs, and PT. Perhaps you decided to read something into what I wrote? You should be more careful with your assumptions.
I have no idea how you would come to assume such a thing. And it is irrelevent to the question, which was NOT "which nightsights have you owned?" Again, you should be more careful about projecting your perceptions onto others. You could have simply ASKED for my opinion of Heinie sights, and I'd have given it to you. You might have been surprised to find that we aren't in great disagreement on the issue. -Troy |
I apologize if I read more into your statement then what it implied. But you stated that Trijicons are the only sights that hold up. Because Trijicons sell their own sights that is the way I took it. |